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Sep 16 2023 03:22pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 16 2023 05:55pm)
It was always bipartisan. Left and right alike had neoliberals and neoconservatives in charge, warmongering interventionalists who shut out the libertarians and tankies alike. The real joke now is the neoliberals parading around the corpse of progressivism and puppeteering it to spew their bile. I've always said the Wellstone foundation is a great example of that.

But you sure get to see how deep the ideological convictions run for folks like Stephen Colbert who earned their chops railing against baby bush's warmongering only to turn around and be more reckless and bloodthirsty now than that turd.


"Parading around the corpse of progressivism" love this :lol: as someone who has always been pretty left leaning it is appalling to see what has become of the modern left

I will have to read up on the Wellstone foundation, not familiar with them but I imagine I will be disgusted by it.

Stephen Colbert becoming what he has was really sad to watch, he used to be so entertaining IMO. Bloodthirsty is probably the best word to describe his personality now.
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Sep 16 2023 03:34pm
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I will have to read up on the Wellstone foundation, not familiar with them but I imagine I will be disgusted by it.


the cliffs notes is, Wellstone was a populist progressive who represented rural farmers and blue collar workers and their interests with a grassroots campaign that won against the odds, then he died in a plane crash. Before the bodies were cold the democrats took the memorial service for him and used it as a stump speech platform to get out the vote in the next election, and governor Ventura walked out in disgust and it became a major embarrassment for the dems. As they completely suppressed their blue collar and farmer voters in the years since, Wellstone's surviving sons tried to use his foundation to represent their interests, but the democrats took it over, kicked the Wellstones out of their own foundation and tried to use it to push identity politics, race and gender grievances and other neoliberal garbage, eventually shuttering the whole thing
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Sep 16 2023 03:37pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 16 2023 06:34pm)
the cliffs notes is, Wellstone was a populist progressive who represented rural farmers and blue collar workers and their interests with a grassroots campaign that won against the odds, then he died in a plane crash. Before the bodies were cold the democrats took the memorial service for him and used it as a stump speech platform to get out the vote in the next election, and governor Ventura walked out in disgust and it became a major embarrassment for the dems. As they completely suppressed their blue collar and farmer voters in the years since, Wellstone's surviving sons tried to use his foundation to represent their interests, but the democrats took it over, kicked the Wellstones out of their own foundation and tried to use it to push identity politics, race and gender grievances and other neoliberal garbage, eventually shuttering the whole thing


Well guess I was right, I am indeed disgusted by it!

Ventura seems like such a good dude, too bad he is dumber than a bag of rocks, I like him
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