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Mar 18 2023 09:56am
Quote (TiStuff @ Mar 18 2023 09:43am)
look at the quote #85 i have already made an admission where things look like they are headed in my response to DizzyBusiness "actually it would be 2nd world nation which one could argue is worse."............ i am not the propagandist thats what you are, obviously.....
The Making Of 'Gutter Oil'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrv78nG9R04


Should read about the group that posted that YouTube video, it's US propaganda. The gutter oil thing may be true, I don't know or care, but you should read about RFA, it has an interesting history.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Free_Asia#:~:text=It%20is%20funded%20and%20supervised,of%20the%20United%20States%20government.
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Mar 18 2023 10:26am
Quote (fender @ Mar 17 2023 10:37pm)
proof of MY alleged insults, lol. you dodged that with a pre-schooler line "i totally could but i just don't want to because *insert generic flimsy excuse*". in reality, you repeatedly hurl insults like "moron" at people, while i don't. not because you don't deserve it or because i oppose swearing in general, but because i know i'll get reported and immediately sanctioned - unlike you, who gets away with it at least 50% of the time (in all likelihood you insulted people more often than just those two instances in two days, as those were just the ones directed at me. chances are there's much more, but it's not like i needed more evidence...). so stop crying now. make a petition to the mods, i'll happily support it. i don't like the rule either, but it is what it is.


All of this QQ because I put you back in your place? Clown

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Quote (Djunior @ Mar 17 2023 08:32pm)
What's wrong with that account? --> group: member

Not banned / locked / whatever as far as I can tell so you might as well stop referring to this user.

Funny to see people own themselves btw :lol:


This post was edited by Djunior on Mar 18 2023 10:27am
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Mar 18 2023 11:17am
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Mar 18 2023 11:23am
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Maybe you should stick on what is happening in Djunioristan.
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Mar 18 2023 11:58am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Mar 18 2023 06:23pm)
Maybe you should stick on what is happening in Djunioristan.


Quote (Meanwhile @ Mar 17 2023 03:01pm)
Protests are ending


Just checked, it's a mess. Stop telling lies.

Question btw, did you get used to the stench from all that waste that's dumped on the streets in Paris?
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Mar 18 2023 12:12pm
Quote (Djunior @ 18 Mar 2023 18:58)
Just checked, it's a mess. Stop telling lies.

Question btw, did you get used to the stench from all that waste that's dumped on the streets in Paris?


Maybe you could trash yourself in Djunioristan, would fits you better.
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Mar 18 2023 12:14pm
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Maybe you could trash yourself in Djunioristan, would fits you better.


Nice dodge, so you didn't get used used to the stench huh

Well that sucks for you I guess
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Mar 18 2023 12:59pm
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Mar 18 2023 08:56am)
Should read about the group that posted that YouTube video, it's US propaganda. The gutter oil thing may be true, I don't know or care, but you should read about RFA, it has an interesting history.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Free_Asia#:~:text=It%20is%20funded%20and%20supervised,of%20the%20United%20States%20government.


ok ty i will take a look at it. fyi though wiki as a source has its own problems. i would say generally they are reliable but "generally" is a problem.


Astroturf and manipulation of media messages | Sharyl Attkisson | TEDxUniversityofNevada
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bYAQ-ZZtEU
@03:55 and then there is wikipedia.
wikipedia are known for being shills for hire
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Mar 18 2023 01:38pm
Quote (TiStuff @ Mar 18 2023 03:59pm)
ok ty i will take a look at it. fyi though wiki as a source has its own problems. i would say generally they are reliable but "generally" is a problem.


Astroturf and manipulation of media messages | Sharyl Attkisson | TEDxUniversityofNevada
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bYAQ-ZZtEU
@03:55 and then there is wikipedia.
wikipedia are known for being shills for hire


Yeah I agree, wiki isn't a good source to use, just posted to give a general overview, the citations in it seemed legit though, and most of the information is publicly available from US government sources.

If you find any of it interesting I'd recommend reading about NED as well (National Endowment for Democracy) it is a bit of a rabbit hole but very interesting if you want to know what the "deep state" gets up to internationally.
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Mar 18 2023 11:47pm
Quote (TiStuff @ Mar 18 2023 05:43am)
i am not the propagandist thats what you are, obviously.....

Being able to be mostly safe in having an even vicious and doompilled critique of liberal society is one of the great advancements of liberalism. You can scream and bitch all you want about how bad things are here, that's not the issue.

What is very profane in liberal societies is pointing out something that's actually pretty obvious: Some non-liberal societies, China included, are not only not as bad as liberal societies, they are quantifiably better.

Say something like that, and immediately the defense mechanism of liberalism comes out: rights, rights, rights. But it's a mirage. Liberalism is hostile to rights to the degree that they can affect the material base of society. You can speechify, unless it's too popular. You can protest, unless it's too inconvenient. You can organize, unless it threatens property relations.

It's a sham system whose glory days were derived from the threat of a good example and imperial plunder. Forced to grapple with the former re-appearing and the latter disappearing, it produces the polls I cited above, and the nonsense responses you'll get from people like the vi***n Frenchman here.

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