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May 8 2021 03:17pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ May 8 2021 04:24pm)


The jury was NOT sequestered you lying fuck.


That point he made is laughable.

I don't think I've ever seen a more public and brazen interference than the Chauvin trial. What Waters and Biden said should be more than enough for there to be another trial.

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May 8 2021 03:57pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ May 8 2021 04:17pm)
That point he made is laughable.

I don't think I've ever seen a more public and brazen interference than the Chauvin trial. What Waters and Biden said should be more than enough for there to be another trial.


Waters yes, Biden no. It will be up to the appeals court in the end.
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May 8 2021 04:01pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ May 8 2021 05:57pm)
Waters yes, Biden no. It will be up to the appeals court in the end.


Technically correct but objectively wrong.

The trial is FUBAR.
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May 8 2021 10:26pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ May 8 2021 04:21pm)
You weren't talking to me, but the answer is quite easy: Trump's platform without Trump's personal incompetence and obnoxiousness.

Just find someone who is not tainted by the swamp, has the ability to stay on the message, is capable of strategic thinking and has the self-restraint to fade into the background when a situation calls for it.

Like you rightfully point out, the Democrats have embraced a lot of really toxic and radical policy/ideology in recent years. As long as ordinary Americans feel like the GOP is on their side (rather than standing primarily for Wall Street tax cuts and endless shitty wars), the GOP will have a majority coalition when pitted against the wokeism, CRT, reckless debt-making and radical climate policies of the Democrats.


This is in essence what the Republican party is trying to accomplish. They are trying to coopt Trump's supporters and adopt some of his language while sidelining Trump himself.

The problem is that Trump himself may have no desire to allow a successor to take over, and he has no qualms blowing up the party to redress slights.
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May 9 2021 12:12am
Quote (EndlessSky @ May 8 2021 01:24pm)

The jury was NOT sequestered you lying fuck.

Pay attention. Biden's statement was after the jury was sequestered.
https://www.king5.com/article/news/verify/courts/chauvin-trial-jury-no-deadline-on-deliberation-process/536-bcb6121d-409d-4f77-bbc2-0051ff90a1d8

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May 9 2021 02:56pm
Quote (bogie160 @ May 8 2021 12:50pm)
You are going to have to flesh out what those "viable strategies" are. Trump was a toxic candidate who catastrophically flubbed a very simple crisis, and the Republican party was still more competitive than in either 2008 or 2012. The Republican party needs to do better in the suburbs, and Trump hurts them their, but cutting off their only growing base of support would be a disaster.

Biden has proposed over $6 trillion in net new spending, over and above regular discretionary and non-discretionary spending. His administration is opposed to the Civil Rights Act, and supports discriminating based on race. You can support or oppose one or both of these things, but in what universe are they not radical?

Yes, the GOP is a mess and many of their candidates are terrible. The same can be said for the Democrats, but at least the Democrats put pen to paper with their terrible ideas. The Republican party is hamstrung by their inability to seriously consider any form of revenue generation. The government is not getting smaller, and discretionary spending increases are probably needed. We need to figure out what to do with non-discretionary spending, but of course it's politically toxic to even talk about it.


Uneducated whites are a dying demographic in this country and I don't think they bring much value to society. They've been given so many opportunities and they refuse to help themselves. Here are a couple strategies that could help the GOP:
1. Win back the suburbs. This could be done quite easily with minimal changes to actual policy. Focus on education and childcare and you're 80% there.
2. Become the pro-immigrant party. Immigrants tend to be socially conservative but are voting with the Democrats more and more. For every piece of white trash that dies of a heroin overdose, we could import someone from Iran, Taiwan, etc. Their work ethic is unmatched and we could learn a thing or two from them.
3. Chip away at the Hispanic demographic. They aren't a monolith but if you can get half of them, that's enough to win in a landslide. Trump's economic message definitely appealed to a large portion of them and you can continue down that path without appealing to white grievance.

As it stands, the GOP is doubling down on white grievance and they are praying that they can keep Trump's levels of the Hispanic vote. Perhaps you can win in 2024 with the current model but it's becoming more difficult. I really don't want to have to rely on institutional advantages that are becoming increasingly undemocratic.

Outside of the COVID relief bill, how is it 6 trillion in NET spending? I find it hard to believe that the Democrats won't raise taxes. That's their MO. I'm not sure why you think Biden's policies are against the Civil Rights Act. I think it was Earl Warren who said that the government needs to try just as hard to reverse the effects of institutional racism as they did when they implemented them. Obviously that's a liberal interpretation from a very liberal judge, but I think it matches with the spirit of the Civil Rights Act. All of these policies are well within the Overton window of the early 2000s.

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Putting them in a hotel at some point hardly disqualifies the barrage of news & perspective these people were exposed to. I remember reading an article the judge basically said try to stay off your phones or read the news when you go home at night to the jury. Like lol. The only way Chauvin would have gotten a fair trial is if we literally shipped in some foreigners from all over the world to sit in.

This is basically a collective punt from the justice system because when you have this type of mob and uproar you can sacrifice impartiality because if by chance he would have gotten off then the damage would have been way worse. I'm pretty sure he won't get another trial when in reality he should.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on May 9 2021 03:16pm
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Putting them in a hotel at some point hardly disqualifies the barrage of news & perspective these people were exposed to. I remember reading an article the judge basically said try to stay off your phones or read the news when you go home at night to the jury. Like lol. The only way Chauvin would have gotten a fair trial is if we literally shipped in some foreigners from all over the world to sit in.

This is basically a collective punt from the justice system because when you have this type of mob and uproar you can sacrifice impartiality because if by chance he would have gotten off then the damage would have been way worse. I'm pretty sure he won't get another trial when in reality he should.


Ship in foreigners and they would have convicted immediately. We're so desensitized to police violence here in America.
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May 10 2021 08:59am
Mitt Romney Censured 🤣

Quote (Thor123422 @ May 9 2021 05:44pm)
Ship in foreigners and they would have convicted immediately. We're so desensitized to police violence here in America.


If armed thug culture didn't exist, the police wouldn't need to put them in their place.

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You have your head inside your ass.

This post was edited by EndlessSky on May 10 2021 09:00am
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May 10 2021 09:22am
GOP Party vs Pedophilla

Cheers for Matt Gaetz in FL
boo Romney in UT
Do they really want to save the children? Or is it just the Q faction of the GOP?

This post was edited by theCrossbones on May 10 2021 09:22am
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