He didn't get manhandled by putin though

Obamas goal was to topple Assad. He just got bent over and called Bubba last week.

Not the panel I was referring to.

Irony.

They can't have hella, ass or on point, not a chance a black man came up with those 3 terms.
The rest they can keep, its all nonsense anyway.

well obviously the excuses amongst establishment dems are ridiculous, they only have themselves to blame, any half decent candidate would have blown that lying clown trump out of the water.

that being said though, the way russia influenced these elections to their benefit (and getting trump elected clearly benefits them, just look at syria and trump administration's close ties with russia) is, to put it in retard elect's word, UNPRESIDENTED, haha...

i can only imagine the outrage if let's say obama or any other democrat had been pushed by russia like that and made himself putin's puppet - heads on the right would have exploded by the thousands...

the alt right can't accept this, it basically means they only won because of the same foul play they cried about before the votes came in.

the right is scared to accept this, not only because they're slowly falling back into ranks behind the orange frog but also because they open themselves up to attacks in the future by openly coming out against it.

the left is having a hard time figuring out the scale they want to actually accuse someone of, like maybe they didn't release everything and maybe they didn't edit things and maybe they didn't delete HRC's emails. no one semi moderate seems to agree on anything except for "we need bipartisan inquiries".

the far left is going loco as much as the far right is ignorring it. accusing the russians of everything from hacking emails to hacking voting machines with the thinly veiled excuse of "speculation" and "well we'll see" after the outlandish statements.

so much fun to see these types of discussion play out /s.... one side acts like is silly to say Russia did anything the other acting like we're at war.