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Jan 29 2024 10:19am

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/h1wp1rncp

A surge in ammunition usage during the wars in Gaza and Ukraine has triggered an unprecedented global shortage across all types of ammunition. And while the IDF avoids public discussion of the issue, Major General Eliezer Toledano acknowledged last month a reduction in air attacks, underscoring the imperative to "manage the economy of armaments" in anticipation of a protracted war.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu echoed these concerns, articulating the need for U.S. support with a succinct plea: "We need three things from the U.S.: armaments, armaments, armaments." In a recent press conference, Netanyahu declared Israel's intent to diminish reliance on global sources, a challenging objective that has raised skepticism about its feasibility

It's OK though the nafo trannys are diligently slaving away in the factories, with a 41% success rate. Meanwhile north Korea outproduces the entirety of the west
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Jan 29 2024 10:22am
Quote (zorzin @ 28 Jan 2024 18:52)
Hamas has preformed better than most were expecting. Again this isn't a "hamas is winning in two weeks" cope post but they're still alive with the tunnels intact. Turning Gaza into stalingrad with no clear way to breach the tunnels, was always going to take a long ass time.

I don't report untruths just basic information that is easily verifiable. For example the US just took 13 casualties with three Kia in Jordan.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/28/politics/us-troops-drone-attack-jordan/index.html


performed?
hamas hides in tunnels and lost or injured 50% of its members.
Israel lost 200 soldiers... so we done better than we expected we thought we will have around 500 - 700 deaths.

Quote (zorzin @ 28 Jan 2024 19:28)
You're correct: hamas conditions for victory is to literally just survive. Their goal is to try and outwait the idf in hopes it will retreat from Gaza due to external pressures like the northern front.
If Israel wants to take down hamas they basically have to take the Philadelphi line and stop the smuggling from Egypt into rafah. Then the idf has to play forever war in a guerilla setting that's gives every possible advantage to the defender.

There's a reason why even Americans never raided tunnels in vietnam; it's too deadly and tunnels are notoriously easy to boobytrap. Israel can't gas the tunnels due to the hostages (,they killed 2 israelies this way and the public outrage was significant)

Therefore we can conclude that the only feasible way to destroy hamas is to accept that the hostages can't be rescued and it will take a couple of years to starve/flush out hamas.

Or bibi gets a ceasefire with hamas in the interm and then launches a strike on beruit and drags the US against Iran. This is the situation that seems more likely at this point.


Hamas is done its just a matter of time.
BIBI doesn't look for a ceasefire he looks to release the hostages without binding ceasefire.

Quote (zorzin @ 29 Jan 2024 18:19)
https://www.ynetnews.com/article/h1wp1rncp

A surge in ammunition usage during the wars in Gaza and Ukraine has triggered an unprecedented global shortage across all types of ammunition. And while the IDF avoids public discussion of the issue, Major General Eliezer Toledano acknowledged last month a reduction in air attacks, underscoring the imperative to "manage the economy of armaments" in anticipation of a protracted war.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu echoed these concerns, articulating the need for U.S. support with a succinct plea: "We need three things from the U.S.: armaments, armaments, armaments." In a recent press conference, Netanyahu declared Israel's intent to diminish reliance on global sources, a challenging objective that has raised skepticism about its feasibility

It's OK though the nafo trannys are diligently slaving away in the factories, with a 41% success rate. Meanwhile north Korea outproduces the entirety of the west


they do discuss it publicly its called Arms Economics in hebrew כלכלת חימושים we talk about it all the time, and we started building those ourseveles month into the war.

we are not hiding anything because we are not a third world sewage country.

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Quote (Many_Names @ Jan 29 2024 11:22am)
performed?
hamas hides in tunnels and lost or injured 50% of its members.
Israel lost 200 soldiers... so we done better than we expected we thought we will have around 500 - 700 deaths.
Hamas is done its just a matter of time.
BIBI doesn't look for a ceasefire he looks to release the hostages without binding ceasefire.
they do discuss it publicly its called Arms Economics in hebrew כלכלת חימושים we talk about it all the time, and we started building those ourseveles month into the war.

we are not hiding anything because we are not a third world sewage country.


To your first point: al qassam just fired a rocket salvo into Tel Aviv and apparently one got through. I'm not saying this to boast but I am merely pointing out that even I didn't expect them to still be doing it at this point in the war. Also dollars to doughnuts, hamas has recruited more members than its lost.

To your second point: I agree with you that ultimately the Israeli resolve will outlast hamas ability to eat 200 calories a day but Israel is trying for a temporary ceasefire to win some pr on the home front and to get its shit together in order to fight hezbollah

To your last point: I have never stated that Israel is 3rd world sewage country. Israel is one of a handful of countries that produces almost all its own weapon platforms and is the only country to develop its own variant of the f35. The article was to show that Israel is getting ready for a war in the north (qatar let it slip) and the west is having a hard time supplying its allies with appropriate munitions which could be an extremely big deal for israel hence the latest combined as package from uncle sam
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Quote (zorzin @ 29 Jan 2024 18:50)
To your first point: al qassam just fired a rocket salvo into Tel Aviv and apparently one got through. I'm not saying this to boast but I am merely pointing out that even I didn't expect them to still be doing it at this point in the war. Also dollars to doughnuts, hamas has recruited more members than its lost.

To your second point: I agree with you that ultimately the Israeli resolve will outlast hamas ability to eat 200 calories a day but Israel is trying for a temporary ceasefire to win some pr on the home front and to get its shit together in order to fight hezbollah

To your last point: I have never stated that Israel is 3rd world sewage country. Israel is one of a handful of countries that produces almost all its own weapon platforms and is the only country to develop its own variant of the f35. The article was to show that Israel is getting ready for a war in the north (qatar let it slip) and the west is having a hard time supplying its allies with appropriate munitions which could be an extremely big deal for israel hence the latest combined as package from uncle sam


Israel doesn't want a ceasefire for PR its wants a ceasefire to release the hostages.
Today, it was publish that 3000 terrorists were killed in khan Yunis 1000 more left.

We learned how to fight hamas-isis in the tunnels and we are killing them like rats.

The fact they shot a rocket to tel aviv without a warhead means it fell just like a rock with zero casualties
furthermore you forgot the mention its a war crime to shoot towards civilian population.
but we already know its hypocrisy party here.

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Quote (Many_Names @ Jan 29 2024 02:10pm)
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furthermore you forgot the mention its a war crime to shoot towards civilian population.
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tell this to the murderous fascists running your country !
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Quote (gnarjay @ 30 Jan 2024 00:18)
tell this to the murderous fascists running your country !


We are not targeting civilians, you can repeat it as much as you like but it wont make it true.
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Quote (Many_Names @ Jan 29 2024 02:30pm)
We are not targeting civilians, you can repeat it as much as you like but it wont make it true.


your exact words were "its a war crime to shoot towards civilian population."

shooting towards civilians =/= targeting civlians
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Jan 29 2024 10:34pm
Quote (gnarjay @ Jan 30 2024 12:32am)
your exact words were "its a war crime to shoot towards civilian population."

shooting towards civilians =/= targeting civlians


If civilians infrastructures are used as military operation than it’s a legitimate military target.
We are all expert in international law now :thumbsup:
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Quote (gnarjay @ 30 Jan 2024 00:32)
your exact words were "its a war crime to shoot towards civilian population."

shooting towards civilians =/= targeting civlians


well now you know what I ment
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Quote (Many_Names @ Jan 29 2024 05:10pm)
Israel doesn't want a ceasefire for PR its wants a ceasefire to release the hostages.
Today, it was publish that 3000 terrorists were killed in khan Yunis 1000 more left.

We learned how to fight hamas-isis in the tunnels and we are killing them like rats.

The fact they shot a rocket to tel aviv without a warhead means it fell just like a rock with zero casualties
furthermore you forgot the mention its a war crime to shoot towards civilian population.
but we already know its hypocrisy party here.


The goals of the ceasefire are twofold imo: obviously getting hostages back but also showing the international community that Israel is willing to bargain, which would be a PR win if structured correctly.

You have not learned to fight hamas in the tunnels, this is a boldface lie. If you did this conflict would of been over in two weeks. This is because any army would struggle with the current situation regarding the tunnels, just look at what we tried to do in vietnam; spoiler, it didn't work out too well.

I remember pointing out awhile ago that the rockets being fired into Israel was terrible and it mostly targeted civilians. I highlight the attacks because it shows that Israel still can't stop the making of and firing of these rockets.

Would you like to comment on ben gvir and Co's Gaza resettlement party? It was such a bad look that gallantz had to say publicly that this wasn't on the table and France and the US condemned the plan. Some leaders in the knesset are literal retards
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