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Jul 1 2022 03:43pm
Quote (YeeHaw @ 1 Jul 2022 22:22)
This is the first time you have replied to me, and I am already a “hack”. Again colors shine almost immediately.


i don't even care whose multi you are, your post was blatant hackery, so to me you're a hack. i don't need to figure out what your main account is to state something so obvious...
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Jul 1 2022 03:46pm
Quote (fender @ Jul 1 2022 05:43pm)
i don't even care whose multi you are, your post was blatant hackery, so to me you're a hack. i don't need to figure out what your main account is to state something so obvious...



Oh, another user who dismisses me because of the post count. :rofl:

So by your logic I am a hack, you are a hack, we are all mindless hacks for whichever side of whatever issue is at hand. Fantastic discussion sir, bravo.
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Jul 1 2022 05:07pm
Quote (fender @ 1 Jul 2022 21:47)
meanwhile in reality:

https://i.imgur.com/O3m6TaP.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/ruFImEt.jpg

it's republicans who want high gas prices for political reasons. obviously right wingers are too stupid to realise that (not that they actually cared about the issue in the first place, most of them are committed through tribalism and racism anyway, literally regardless of what republicans do politically), so this won't hurt them. still important to point it out whenever some lazy hacks pretend this is about policy, lol.


In reality, high energy prices and inflation are a huge political threat to all parties in power in all countries around the world. If the problem was as easy as "greedy corporations price gouging", and a bill like the one proposed by Democrats in the U.S. was an easy fix to it, how come no similar legislation has been taken up in other first world countries, not even the ones where left-of-center parties are in power and there exists no Senate/filibuster to obstruct them?

Also in reality, it is liberals/leftists who have been wanting high(er) gas prices for a long time, so that they can more easily push their green agenda. For example, as far back as 1998, the German Greens have officially demanded a liter of gasoline to cost 5 DM (=~ €2.50), which at the time seemed completely outrageous as gas prices stood at 1.60 DM. And that's not just some conspiracy I'm making up, even the Washington Post, notoriously pro-swamp, pro-CorporateDemocrat, anti-Trump and anti-Republican, has been noticing that:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/05/31/gas-prices-biden-approval-clean-energy/
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 2 Jul 2022 01:07)
In reality, high energy prices and inflation are a huge political threat to all parties in power in all countries around the world. If the problem was as easy as "greedy corporations price gouging", and a bill like the one proposed by Democrats in the U.S. was an easy fix to it, how come no similar legislation has been taken up in other first world countries, not even the ones where left-of-center parties are in power and there exists no Senate/filibuster to obstruct them?

Also in reality, it is liberals/leftists who have been wanting high(er) gas prices for a long time, so that they can more easily push their green agenda. For example, as far back as 1998, the German Greens have officially demanded a liter of gasoline to cost 5 DM (=~ €2.50), which at the time seemed completely outrageous as gas prices stood at 1.60 DM. And that's not just some conspiracy I'm making up, even the Washington Post, notoriously pro-swamp, pro-CorporateDemocrat, anti-Trump and anti-Republican, has been noticing that:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/05/31/gas-prices-biden-approval-clean-energy/


so marc a thiessen, bush jr. speechwriter and fox news contributor says so in an opinion piece - even though he is usually pro democrat (?!) and anti republican (lol?!). could you be any more dishonest if you tried to?

also, two (and more) things can be true at the same time: biden wanting to finally break the incredible dependence on fossil fuel, but still not wanting the average american to pay for those corporations' greed and price gouging.

finally, have you been living under a rock? we do have the "tankrabatt" and mechanisms against illegal price fixing, so miss me with those silly deflections. REPUBLICANS OPPOSING ANTI-PRICE GOUGING LEGISLATION IN ORDER TO POLITICISE THE GAS PRICE AND NOT ANGER THEIR DONORS IN THE FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY is a fact, and no lazy whataboutism will hide that:



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Jul 1 2022 06:59pm
fender is aligned with GWB now. lmfao. warmongers.

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Jul 1 2022 08:46pm
Quote (fender @ Jul 2 2022 02:01am)
so marc a thiessen, bush jr. speechwriter and fox news contributor says so in an opinion piece - even though he is usually pro democrat (?!) and anti republican (lol?!). could you be any more dishonest if you tried to?

also, two (and more) things can be true at the same time: biden wanting to finally break the incredible dependence on fossil fuel, but still not wanting the average american to pay for those corporations' greed and price gouging.

finally, have you been living under a rock? we do have the "tankrabatt" and mechanisms against illegal price fixing, so miss me with those silly deflections. REPUBLICANS OPPOSING ANTI-PRICE GOUGING LEGISLATION IN ORDER TO POLITICISE THE GAS PRICE AND NOT ANGER THEIR DONORS IN THE FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY is a fact, and no lazy whataboutism will hide that:

https://i.imgur.com/ruFImEt.jpeg


the tankrabatt (for non germans: a temporary lower tax on fuel) and every other "mechanism" as you call it are a complete and utter failure :rofl:

our government loves high prices, because that means higher tax revenue

foreign people reading this could get the idea that germany is doing well at controlling prices, which is blatantly false

even the dumbass lefties are calling that shit out, one of the few things i agree with for a change
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Jul 1 2022 11:23pm
800million to ukraine?
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Jul 2 2022 06:05am
Quote (fender @ 2 Jul 2022 02:01)
so marc a thiessen, bush jr. speechwriter and fox news contributor says so in an opinion piece - even though he is usually pro democrat (?!) and anti republican (lol?!). could you be any more dishonest if you tried to?

also, two (and more) things can be true at the same time: biden wanting to finally break the incredible dependence on fossil fuel, but still not wanting the average american to pay for those corporations' greed and price gouging.

finally, have you been living under a rock? we do have the "tankrabatt" and mechanisms against illegal price fixing, so miss me with those silly deflections. REPUBLICANS OPPOSING ANTI-PRICE GOUGING LEGISLATION IN ORDER TO POLITICISE THE GAS PRICE AND NOT ANGER THEIR DONORS IN THE FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY is a fact, and no lazy whataboutism will hide that:

https://i.imgur.com/ruFImEt.jpeg


This piece might come from a biased source, but it was still published by a high-quality newspaper which has a strong pro-Democrat bias and normally runs cover for Biden. And it's not just the WaPo, even CNN (formerly known as Clinton News Network) is starting to ask the Biden admin tough and critical questions. As someone recently said: "when you're losing the Washington Post as a Democrat, you know you are in trouble".



At the end of the day, the facts couldn't be any clearer:

Oil prices had been stagnant for months in 2020 until the US election took place:


Oil prices had already risen by almost 20% before the first covid vaccine was approved (fueling market hopes for an end to the covid-induced freeze of the economy):


Oil prices were on a steady upward trajectory from the 2020 election until the start of the war in Ukraine, the bulk of the price hike came before the war, clearly disproving the narrative out of the Biden admin that Putin is to blame for high gas prices, as well as his argument that these prices are some sort of collateral damage of this war which American consumers therefore have a moral obligation to endure:



to be continued...

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jul 2 2022 06:06am
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Jul 2 2022 06:09am
Quote (fender @ 2 Jul 2022 02:01)
so marc a thiessen, bush jr. speechwriter and fox news contributor says so in an opinion piece - even though he is usually pro democrat (?!) and anti republican (lol?!). could you be any more dishonest if you tried to?

also, two (and more) things can be true at the same time: biden wanting to finally break the incredible dependence on fossil fuel, but still not wanting the average american to pay for those corporations' greed and price gouging.

finally, have you been living under a rock? we do have the "tankrabatt" and mechanisms against illegal price fixing, so miss me with those silly deflections. REPUBLICANS OPPOSING ANTI-PRICE GOUGING LEGISLATION IN ORDER TO POLITICISE THE GAS PRICE AND NOT ANGER THEIR DONORS IN THE FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY is a fact, and no lazy whataboutism will hide that:

https://i.imgur.com/ruFImEt.jpeg


And last but not least, even the oil prices in China, a controlled economy in which the government has unfettered power to stop any price gouging, have the exact same trajectory:


It might be thinkable that there are corrupt forces in Western nations which prevent action against big oil price gouging, but why on earth should the Chinese government allow this to happen, considering that it hampers the economic recovery, reduces the wealth of its citizens and thus undermines the base of the CCP's power?



sources:
https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/brent-crude-oil
https://tradingeconomics.com/china/gasoline-prices

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jul 2 2022 06:11am
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Jul 2 2022 07:49am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 2 2022 02:09pm)
And last but not least, even the oil prices in China, a controlled economy in which the government has unfettered power to stop any price gouging, have the exact same trajectory:
https://i.imgur.com/v2Q02P5.jpg

It might be thinkable that there are corrupt forces in Western nations which prevent action against big oil price gouging, but why on earth should the Chinese government allow this to happen, considering that it hampers the economic recovery, reduces the wealth of its citizens and thus undermines the base of the CCP's power?



sources:
https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/brent-crude-oil
https://tradingeconomics.com/china/gasoline-prices


too many facts, you wont get a response B)

pootin bad
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