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We also have Nikki Haley saying if he ran, she would not. Chris Christie just went on Hannity and gave his presidency an A rating. The prominent right-wing propagandists all support him and cannot suffer anyone who criticizes him in the slightest. Etc, etc. The cult lives on. He remains the leader of the Republican party, so to criticize those outside the cult for covering him is ridiculous.

Biden has previously claimed that the US is withdrawing from Afghanistan. I'll believe it when I see it.



From the Vice Presidential debate against Paul Ryan:
"In Afghanistan we've agreed on a gradual drawdown so we're out of there by the year 2014. My friend and the governor say its based on conditions which means it depends. It does NOT depend for us. We are leaving. We are leaving in 2014. PERIOD."

A damning lie to win an election and maintain power.


In this case now he is extending the war/occupation several months beyond a previously agreed upon date so he can virtue signal about ending on the 20th anniversary of 9/11. Putting American troops in danger for symbolism. A pretty shitty thing to do.
Dragging his feet on withdrawal after 20 years and countless people killed in Afghanistan does not make him some great antiwar hero all of a sudden.

If he actually withdraws, that would be good and preferable to indefinite occupation, but does not excuse his long history of being complicit in immoral wars or your vehement support for war criminals while smearing those who disagree with them as evil.
Afghanistan is not the sole theater of battle and foreign policy.


awaiting further instructions from corporate state media.



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1. Biden was Vice President when he made those statements. He had no power to withdraw troops.
2. Go Google all the times Trump said we should leave Afghanistan. There's years worth of material. Trump initially increased our presence there. He had 4 years to withdraw and failed to do so.
3. When Trump extends wars or sends arms to conflicts in Yemen and Ukraine, he's given a pass by you. When Biden decides to leave Afghanistan, he's criticized because he isn't doing it fast enough, and because he's supported conflicts before(just as Trump has). The only standard is "orange man good, Democrats bad".
4. Lol @ you not quoting me again.

6 months ago you criticized Trump for wanting to bring the troops home from Germany and Afghanistan. You made the point (well at least parroted the point) that it was irresponsible and lauded both neocon and democrat efforts to actually create legislation that would prevent him from doing so.

Now you're unclear on the issue? What changed in 6 months? Is the Taliban no longer a threat that Biden is in office or?

I don't care whos pres. I don't care they excuses
get the troops out

When both parties literally create legislation to tie a president's hands in withdrawing troops I care and I take note.

I hope Biden fulfills this, but I'm not going to forget how a party that has been traditionally anti-war, anti-intervention literally put in road blocks just being because they wanted to #resist.

I don't recall exactly what I said, but can we be a little more nuanced? Troops in Germany and troops in Afghanistan are separate issues. I opposed withdrawing troops from Germany. I have mixed feelings about Afghanistan. Our presence there isn't costing us much and the Taliban overthrowing the government would be bad but I sympathize with the feeling that we've been there long enough and there's no cheap way to win the war. I don't have a firm position either way... I probably lean towards withdrawing. I think my main criticism of Trump was him wanting to host a summit with the Taliban at Camp David on the 9/11 anniversary. Also not sure that I ever applauded that particular legislation you're talking about.

Those are my real positions. You could engage with them, or continue the strawmanning.