Per the US constitution:
Quote
The Congress shall have Power To… exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States… (The U.S. Constitution, Article I, Section 8, Clause 17)
this issue of federal jurisdiction over restricted areas for government proceedings is essentially as old as the constitution, and far older than almost all of the ammendments (perhaps all, im not gonna get out a timeline).
Quote
In The Federalist No. 43, James Madison explained the need for a "federal district," subject to Congress's exclusive jurisdiction and separate from the territory, and authority, of any single state:/QUOTE]
Quote
The indispensable necessity of compleat authority at the seat of Government carries its own evidence with it. It is a power exercised by every Legislature of the Union, I might say of the world, by virtue of its general supremacy. Without it, not only the public authority might be insulted and its proceedings be interrupted, with impunity; but a dependence of the members of the general Government, on the State comprehending the seat of the Government for protection in the exercise of their duty, might bring on the national councils an imputation of awe or influence, equally dishonorable to the Government, and dissatisfactory to the other members of the confederacy.[
Quote
Madison's concerns about insults to the "public authority" were not speculative. In June 1783, several hundred unpaid and angry Continental soldiers had marched on Philadelphia, menacing Congress in Independence Hall itself. Pennsylvania refused all requests for assistance and, after two days, Congress adjourned. Its Members fled into New Jersey.
The incident made a lasting impression. The Framers referenced it over and again in defending their provision for a "federal town," which Anti-Federalists persisted in visualizing as a sink of corruption and a potential nursery for tyrants. In fact, however, the need for a territory in which the general government exercised full sovereignty, not beholden to any state, was probably inherent in the federal system itself.
At the time, the location of the new capital was more contentious than its necessity. Both New York and Pennsylvania were desperate for the plum-with Benjamin Franklin urging Pennsylvania's Legislature to grant the land moments after the proposed Constitution was first read to that body. In any event, a "Southern" site was selected, near the fall line of the Potomac River. In exchange, the Southern states agreed that the new federal government would assume the states' Revolutionary War debts, which were more burdensome to the Northern states. That arrangement was sealed in a meeting between Alexander Hamilton and Thomas Jefferson in which the South gained the capital, but the federal government obtained economic prowess. Maryland and Virginia ceded "ten miles square" on their respective sides of the river, and the government finally moved to its permanent seat in 1800.
this literally happened Pre-DC, and the framing of DC was created specifically to protect Government functions and to not depend on any state for protection in doing so.
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Jan 7 2021 10:43am)
Digging the nonsense. Keep going. Before you start though, explain why the 2018 occupiers were released without charge.
There's nothing dreamy here. Public servants establishing special rules for themselves is nothing new. Having it not amount to anything is also nothing new. You want to make a case for why people occupying a public building is worse than people burning down privately owned buildings? Make the case. Otherwise, pretty much everything you're saying boils down to, "unconstitutional or not, public servants are way more special and get special treatment!111!!ONE!!" Okay. Meantime, the reality is that those who occupied peacefully will at most get a misdemeanor and fined. Those who carried weapons onto the premises will have the book thrown at them, as they would literally any other time. We done, or you ready to grandstand some more?
i want them arrested, too. idiot.
This post was edited by thesnipa on Jan 7 2021 10:46am