So Republicans are not only losing seats but the whole majority in congress, and trump is calling it a "victory"
The poor fuck has only one way of a denial
Whatever it's Mueller & investigations time, and Mexico will pay for it.

They lost the majority in the House only. They still have the majority in the Senate and in the governorships. Not to mention the Supreme Court.

they substantially increased their lead in the senate though - and since it's the senate that is confirming cabinet appointment and judicial nominees, the senate is more valuable to the president's party than the house in the case of a split congress.

moreover, the GOP substantially increased their cushion in the senate for the upcoming 2020 elections. with today's pickups, it is very unlikely that the democrats take back the senate in 2020, even if they defeat trump and a Democrat becomes president.
so not only did tonight's senate triumph give trump the time he needs to finish his conservative reshaping of the judicial branch, it also (most likely) prevented a democratic trifecta control over Washington from 2020 onward, even if Trump goes down.

and in the house, with the historical trend for the president's party to face backlash, plus unprecedented fundraising from the democrats, plus a D+9 national environment, plus an unprecedented media campaign against the president, they still only managed to conjure a modest-sized "blue wave" in terms of seat gains. the gerrymandered "red wall" withstood the blue wave.

the gubernatorial races are more of a mixed bag for both parties. holding georgia, florida and ohio is great for the GOP, but losing kansas and wisconsin hurts.


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the real story of tonight imho is that polarization won. what's really worrisome for republicans is how they were melting in the suburbs. if Trump wants to get reelected, and if he doesnt want to remain a lame duck for 6 more years, he will have to find a way to reduce his toxicity with suburban voters while retaining his appeal to rural voters.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Nov 7 2018 04:51am

you are saying it yourself, republicans lost the legislative chamber
- the senate result was expected since it was 1/3 of senators and most of them where already democrats
- democrats progressed on governors seats

So it's not a "victory", more like a defeat

IMO the most important to come (and entertaining) is investigations, the ones on trump organization & tax returns will be hilarious.

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translating from
https://www.francetvinfo.fr/monde/usa/midterms-2018/etats-unis-ce-que-les-resultats-des-midterms-changent-pour-donald-trump_3022093.html



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In concrete terms, many of the emblematic measures of Donald Trump's program risk being blocked at the legislative level. Without a majority, Donald Trump will thus be unable to repeal the Obamacare law, an emblematic reform of the health insurance scheme set up under the presidency of Barack Obama. It will be difficult to reach the budgets allocated to several social programs, and further reduce the taxation of the most favored American businesses and households. Donald Trump will also have to give up the construction of a wall on the border with Mexico, says Le Figaro. Finally, he will lose a considerable margin of maneuver on the negotiation of the treaties, since these are ratified by the Congress, explains France Culture.
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the president will always be able to "advance his pawns"* by signing presidential decrees, which Barack Obama had largely used after losing democratic control of the House of Representatives. But these decrees would be likely to be defeated by a simple signature of a next president.
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*translation is terrible sometimes it was his small pawns

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A Democratic majority in the House of Representatives also involves new investigations targeting the US President. As the British BBC * channel notes, the Democrats will now take the lead in important committees in the lower house, which may allow them to launch investigations, among other things, on the allegations of sexual assault against Donald Trump, or still on matters concerning his companies, such as the Trump International Hotel.
The US president also seems threatened by Bill Pascrell, a New Jersey Democrat, who is fighting for the release of Donald Trump's tax returns. Victorious Tuesday night, this parliamentarian could take the head of the commission "Ways and Means", in charge of taxation in the House of Representatives, reports France Culture.
Existing investigations into the suspicions of collusion between Donald Trump's campaign and Russia in 2016 may finally accelerate once the Democrats head the House of Representatives. Any controversial policy could be investigated
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This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Nov 7 2018 05:01am

you cant compare the role of the lower and upper chamber in France, or Britain for that matter, with those in the U.S.!
the senate is just as important as the house when it comes to passing legislation. but on top of that, it is the senate - which the republicans still hold - that confirms Trump's cabinet picks and judicial nominees.

Im not doing such comparison, do NOT put the words you want in my mouth.

we also have to weigh tonight's results against expectations and historical precedent. since 1910, there have been only two midterm elections for a first-term president where the president's party did not lose seats in the house:

1934, when FDR's new deal had tons of momentum and the voters were through with the republican party after a series of bad presidents in the 20s and the great depression.
2002, when Bush and his republicans were still riding the "rally-around-the-flag" effect after 9/11.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_midterm_election

You keep hoping that, as long as you want. But like I said, the Reps kept the Senate and most of the governorships.

I'll keep in mind how entertained you are as you lose your country to muslims.

Buuutt butttt muslims bBuuut butttt immigrannnnts buuuuut....

The shit is about to get washed out by the blue wave (post 625)




losing seats =/= losing majority

? pathetic. who cares about losing seats when you lose a majority?