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Oct 10 2023 09:23pm
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Oct 10 2023 09:39pm)
Saudis probably want to maintain the status quo as much as possible IMO but the situations void described basically showed them they will be put on the chopping block just as easily as any other middle eastern country.

I doubt they want to burn everything down by devastating the US economy but I think it will affect their decision making going forward, to what degree I don't know.


His case is speculation, less reality.

In all reality it doesn’t even look like Israel Saudi deal is for sure falling apart yet. A deal they negotiated over the last few years without once consulting Hamas, the reigning party in Gaza. This alone should demonstrate their irreverence to both Hamas and Iran.

You guys really underestimate the impact not only of the above deal but also how intertwined Saudi and US economies are

#1 rule for everyone is self preservation

US needs Saudi
Israel needs US and Saudi
Saudi needs US
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Quote (Bazi @ Oct 11 2023 12:23am)
His case is speculation, less reality.

In all reality it doesn’t even look like Israel Saudi deal is for sure falling apart yet. A deal they negotiated over the last few years without once consulting Hamas, the reigning party in Gaza. This alone should demonstrate their irreverence to both Hamas and Iran.

You guys really underestimate the impact not only of the above deal but also how intertwined Saudi and US economies are

#1 rule for everyone is self preservation

US needs Saudi
Israel needs US and Saudi
Saudi needs US

Which part? The relationship has most definitely gotten much worse than it used to be due to what he mentioned, that doesn't mean they will burn everything down, but it certainly isn't helpful.

Saudis don't care about hamas but they do care about the Palestinians.


Not underestimating it just dont think it is bulletproof. Regarding their economies I admit I don't know the extent of how intertwined they are, I will read up on it though thanks.

I don't think self preservation is the #1 rule, if it were we wouldn't have wars would we? Or maybe it is but the meaning varies so much between people that what seems like self preservation to one person might seem suicidal to another. Either way I'm personally of the opinion that there are a lot of big geopolitical shifts happening right now and that the SA-US relationship might be one of those.
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Oct 11 2023 12:12am
Some good news, maybe
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/shani-louk-mother-hamas-israel-gaza-hospital-b2427642.html

This post was edited by DizzyBusiness on Oct 11 2023 12:21am
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Oct 11 2023 01:56am

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Quote (tommyd323 @ Oct 11 2023 02:56am)
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So a jew says you are not allowed to speak against jews.
This deff exposes them.
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Oct 11 2023 05:01am
Quote (sirthom @ Oct 11 2023 04:57am)
So a jew says you are not allowed to speak against jews.
This deff exposes them.
Ty.


No she won’t condemn Hamas is what exposes her. Can’t believe we still have racist trash in this country.
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No she won’t condemn Hamas is what exposes her. Can’t believe we still have racist trash in this country.


How bout instead ask why is Hamas against them?
Also, being racially motivated does not make you trash.
Example, MLK was racially motivated, is he trash to you or just the ones you don't like?
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Quote (sirthom @ 11 Oct 2023 19:13)
How bout instead ask why is Hamas against them?
Also, being racially motivated does not make you trash.
Example, MLK was racially motivated, is he trash to you or just the ones you don't like?


Instead of using the word racist why not use the word Pattern Recognizer
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