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#8791
Jan 20 2024 03:07pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 20 2024 08:57pm)
The last few pages of this thread mostly contain YOU and your side posting evidence of Israel having its own mind and conducting the operation in Gaza much more resolutely and thoroughly than its Western partners would like.


Common fallacy deployed by virtue signallers and liars.

Another example is "Ukraine will collapse any day now", whilst also saying "The entire strength of NATO is supporting Ukraine and Russia is at war with all of NATO"

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Jan 20 2024 03:19pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 20 2024 12:57pm)
The last few pages of this thread mostly contain YOU and your side posting evidence of Israel having its own mind and conducting the operation in Gaza much more resolutely and thoroughly than its Western partners would like.


all of that is true. the ONLY reason Israel has been able to commit war crimes daily for 100+ days is because we will continue to back them financially/militarily/etc. you think Bibi wouldnt have gone full blown psycho killer if Uncle Sam wasnt right there behind him? lol
is a symbiotic relationship
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#8793
Jan 20 2024 03:56pm
Quote (zorzin @ Jan 20 2024 07:05am)
Oct 7 was the greatest military operation in modern history. The only direct targeting of civilians was done via the Hannibal directive by the idf. Until someone can post proof of the 40 beheaded babies or anything like that I remain skeptical that hamas killed/raped civilians, maybe if I get invited to gal gadots oct7 watch party I can view the evidence for myself.

I agree with you that Israel has the right to defend itself and destroy hamas, but it's clear as day now that this was never the intended goal and pushing gazans through rafah was always the plan. You are witnessing the complete and total destruction of Israel's international reputation in real time, all the while hamas grows in popularity as bona fide freedom fighters.


Who is Shani Louk and what happened to her?
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#8794
Jan 20 2024 04:10pm
I've choosen to give up the word "musim". It is to offensive, I'm useing the prior woke word mohammedan or mohammed worshipper now.
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#8795
Jan 20 2024 05:24pm
Quote (zorzin @ Jan 20 2024 08:03am)
Is that why Israel is denying access to the victims of oct7 to the icj? I have no qualms about calling out acts of barbarism but I want the events of oct7th to be reviewed by an independent and outside agency. What hamas "apparently" did was destroy the golani Brigade in a heads up fight, steal valuable Intel from a military base and successfully take hostages; the literal definition of a textbook military OP.

The amount of fanfiction surrounding Oct 7th is the only thing keeping the average citizen of realizing that Israel is simply committing an ethnic cleansing


I don't know that to be true, but if Israel is denying access to these people, it's to protect them. They survived an attack where Hamas raped, tortured, burned alive, and murdered their neighbors/friends/family. Who knows what Hamas did to these people in Gaza. These people should be protected by Israel.

To be clear, in this narrative of a cease fire, the cease fire happens if it can be utilized to Israel's advantage to retrieve hostages. Otherwise, no cease fire, until Hamas is destroyed. Hamas turned me(an American center-right Catholic who had almost no thoughts on Israel/Palestine/Hamas) into a Zionist on October 7th. Fuck them and anyone who supports them.

This post was edited by IceMage on Jan 20 2024 05:34pm
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#8796
Jan 20 2024 05:33pm
To add, the United Nations is vehement in it's anti-Israeli stance, and has been for several decades. Israel resisting the UN(in it's various forms) is perfectly rational.
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#8797
Jan 20 2024 05:38pm
Triple post.

Btw, Hamas killed at least 31 Americans, and they still hold Americans hostage. If this terrorist attack happened in America and 31 people were killed, the nation would've reacted quite differently. Eliminating Hamas is an American project as well, and people here should support it.
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#8798
Jan 20 2024 05:39pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 20 2024 01:57pm)
You know what Israel, Russia and the US all have in common when it comes to propaganda? They all tell the truth when the truth is on their side. Because that's always the strongest case to be made
Everyone got ass blasted over Russia exposing how the DNC was rigging Hillary Clinton's primary in 2016, and yet all they did was put a spotlight on dirty laundry. And Julian Assange is still in prison for acts of journalism.
Hamas sent a horde of barbarians on a cross border pillaging raid in a scene straight out of the first millenia, something that hasn't been done anywhere in the world except Africa in modern times. Israel goes out of its way to give an honest accounting of it and publicize it to the world, because they know when the truth is on their side.

Why did the IDF get fucked up by a horde of barbarians?

Not sure they had motorized paragliders in the first millenia but that would have been pretty dope tbh.

It's funny how offended you are by hamas tactics which aren't nearly as disastrous as what your country and its allies inflict on large portions of the world. Props to whatever propaganda program the CIA enacted to convince westerners that dropping bombs is the noble way to fight a war.
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Jan 20 2024 05:45pm
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Jan 20 2024 03:39pm)
Why did the IDF get fucked up by a horde of barbarians?

Not sure they had motorized paragliders in the first millenia but that would have been pretty dope tbh.

It's funny how offended you are by hamas tactics which aren't nearly as disastrous as what your country and its allies inflict on large portions of the world. Props to whatever propaganda program the CIA enacted to convince westerners that dropping bombs is the noble way to fight a war.


.... they didn't, Hamas attacked defenseless party goers, children and mothers living in their communities. You're sick.

Now they got their chance to fight the IDF, and the IDF destroyed them. Nothing but crocodile tears coming from Gaza - you support terrorists, you get destroyed.

This post was edited by El1te on Jan 20 2024 05:45pm
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Jan 20 2024 05:52pm
Quote (El1te @ Jan 20 2024 07:45pm)
.... they didn't, Hamas attacked defenseless party goers, children and mothers living in their communities. You're sick.

Now they got their chance to fight the IDF, and the IDF destroyed them. Nothing but crocodile tears coming from Gaza - you support terrorists, you get destroyed.

Lol wow you still don't even know what happened on oct 7th

Pretty funny considering how worked up you are over it
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