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Jan 20 2024 08:11am
Quote (zorzin @ Jan 20 2024 06:05am)
Oct 7 was the greatest military operation in modern history. The only direct targeting of civilians was done via the Hannibal directive by the idf. Until someone can post proof of the 40 beheaded babies or anything like that I remain skeptical that hamas killed/raped civilians, maybe if I get invited to gal gadots oct7 watch party I can view the evidence for myself.

I agree with you that Israel has the right to defend itself and destroy hamas, but it's clear as day now that this was never the intended goal and pushing gazans through rafah was always the plan. You are witnessing the complete and total destruction of Israel's international reputation in real time, all the while hamas grows in popularity as bona fide freedom fighters.


Why would you need a single report(40 beheaded babies) being confirmed to acknowledge what Hamas did that day? That's the most extreme report of what Hamas apparently did... there's several other reports that have more evidence and aren't really subject to debate. And you are completely sidestepping all of that, which tells me that you aren't comfortable acknowledging and/or defending what Hamas did on October 7th.

US support will sustain Israel through the anti-Semitic European bias.

Edit - I've never been a vocal supporter of Israel, but I've always supported the Zionist project. Now things are different.

This post was edited by IceMage on Jan 20 2024 08:14am
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Jan 20 2024 09:08am
Quote (zorzin @ Jan 20 2024 02:16pm)
Hamas is not a terrorist organization. It is a freedom fighting organization that wants to secure an existence of its people. Also the illegal blockade imposed on Gaza takes away its right to self determination. All hamas did on oct7 was show the world the true nature of Israel and what it really wanted this whole time: a final solution to the Palestinian question.

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Oh wow a Hamas supporter , haven’t seen that for a while. Not since everyone start to wash their hands off those Hamas activists since 7 Oct like dog shakes fleas.
Seems that you are frustrated from how things are going on, I hope that you’ll keep being disappointed :banana:
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Jan 20 2024 10:03am
Quote (IceMage @ Jan 20 2024 09:11am)
Why would you need a single report(40 beheaded babies) being confirmed to acknowledge what Hamas did that day? That's the most extreme report of what Hamas apparently did... there's several other reports that have more evidence and aren't really subject to debate. .


Is that why Israel is denying access to the victims of oct7 to the icj? I have no qualms about calling out acts of barbarism but I want the events of oct7th to be reviewed by an independent and outside agency. What hamas "apparently" did was destroy the golani Brigade in a heads up fight, steal valuable Intel from a military base and successfully take hostages; the literal definition of a textbook military OP.

The amount of fanfiction surrounding Oct 7th is the only thing keeping the average citizen of realizing that Israel is simply committing an ethnic cleansing
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Quote (WhiteSouned @ Jan 20 2024 10:08am)
Oh wow a Hamas supporter , haven’t seen that for a while. Not since everyone start to wash their hands off those Hamas activists since 7 Oct like dog shakes fleas.
Seems that you are frustrated from how things are going on, I hope that you’ll keep being disappointed :banana:


100+ days and still haven't taken a 5mile strip of land guarded by starving sandal wearing boys with aks and rpgs. The airforce killed another 2 hostages by bombing them and talks of not being able to defeat hamas has been circulating in us/Israeli media for over a week now.

Bibi has told hhe Americans that he's gona start bombing hezbollah because he needs this war to escalate in order to save his ass. He'll go all out war and then accept a ceasefire that incorporates Gaza into it so he can save face.

30k casualties and you still can't take beit hanoun. The myth of Israel being the lion of the Middle East is over, everyone knows that without your airforce, your tiktok soldiers are unbelievably incompetent.
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Jan 20 2024 10:13am
Quote (IceMage @ Jan 20 2024 08:11am)
Why would you need a single report(40 beheaded babies) being confirmed to acknowledge what Hamas did that day? That's the most extreme report of what Hamas apparently did... there's several other reports that have more evidence and aren't really subject to debate. And you are completely sidestepping all of that, which tells me that you aren't comfortable acknowledging and/or defending what Hamas did on October 7th.

US support will sustain Israel through the anti-Semitic European bias.

Edit - I've never been a vocal supporter of Israel, but I've always supported the Zionist project. Now things are different.


You don't think the black sun flag in his avatar is a bit on the nose there icemage?
He's denying the atrocities for a purpose
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Jan 20 2024 11:01am
Israel do be lying though
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Jan 20 2024 11:03am
Quote (zorzin @ 20 Jan 2024 10:03)
Is that why Israel is denying access to the victims of oct7 to the icj? I have no qualms about calling out acts of barbarism but I want the events of oct7th to be reviewed by an independent and outside agency. What hamas "apparently" did was destroy the golani Brigade in a heads up fight, steal valuable Intel from a military base and successfully take hostages; the literal definition of a textbook military OP.

The amount of fanfiction surrounding Oct 7th is the only thing keeping the average citizen of realizing that Israel is simply committing an ethnic cleansing
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100+ days and still haven't taken a 5mile strip of land guarded by starving sandal wearing boys with aks and rpgs. The airforce killed another 2 hostages by bombing them and talks of not being able to defeat hamas has been circulating in us/Israeli media for over a week now.

Bibi has told hhe Americans that he's gona start bombing hezbollah because he needs this war to escalate in order to save his ass. He'll go all out war and then accept a ceasefire that incorporates Gaza into it so he can save face.

30k casualties and you still can't take beit hanoun. The myth of Israel being the lion of the Middle East is over, everyone knows that without your airforce, your tiktok soldiers are unbelievably incompetent.


Dude you are so mad that Israel is taking full strategic advantage of an attack that it probably knew was imminent. George W Bush did the same thing. Teddy Roosevelt did the same thing. Woodrow Wilson did the same thing. History isn't "new" it just repeats itself..

You keep gloating about how the Middle East is woopin' America but in reality we have 100x the control over the Middle East then it does "America". We've done 1000x the raw/physical/mental damage to that region. Mass murder/Cities decimated/Turmoil exhaserbated/more terrorist created/more of a power vacuum initiated. You act as if all of this didn't happen and that America is currently "wining and dining" enjoying the 1st world amenities that come when you "run/ran" the world the last 100 years and made war with everyone aloing the way.

You think because a group of grown ass men can acquire guns and start indiscrimately murdering people and take control of an area that they can't be "defeated"???? Not worth the time or assets when the enemy will kill itself over whose God is the real God. Whose name on the invisible entity that "controls existence" is the "true name" and whose is just an "infidels".

To further add on Netanyahu do you really think he controls Israel? Do you think Biden controls America? No. There is an international body consisting of the largest private corporations, largest land owners, royals, money printers. The "elite" as they are called.

Literally Iran, Cuba, and North Korea the only countries left without a Rothschild central bank and all you see on MSM is "Those 3 countries are bad, evil, poor, etc."

Follow the money not the emotions and you'll easily see the puppet masters at play lol

You literally look at who owns the Federal Reserve and all the trillions that went missing into "black budget military projects" of which no one can account for the money and keep telling yourself that America's military is weak when in reality the Rothschilds MADE America into the top military force so when she "America" is called upon she goes and eviscerates her enemy.

The United States played great 7d chess in that they made the world assume we have no oil left, no gold left in fort knox and then we start a war in the middle east to FEED our behemoth military while creating a permanent base presence throughout the Middle East. Literally suck every drop of oil out of the Middle East and fill are own reserves while actually having significant reserves in Alaska and off the Gulf coast.

There's so much behind what's going on and yet people only see the surface level watered down MSM garbage and parrot talking points from MSM as if they are an authentic source when they are OWNED by people/interest/groups that have them biting at the necks of people they know over shit that doesn't make sense.

The only success of the NWO is that it managed to create a divide between regular people who would otherwise have no political/religious affiliation if they weren't "brought up in it". Politics brings out the worst in people and when you couple that with a delusional abrahamic religion your in big trouble...
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Jan 20 2024 11:33am
Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 20 2024 11:13am)
You don't think the black sun flag in his avatar is a bit on the nose there icemage?
He's denying the atrocities for a purpose


Says the guy who equated hamas throwing a grenade into a barracks, to israel using white phosphorus on civilians (not smokescreens)

If Oct7th proves in time to be a legitimate military incursion, with most of the civilian casualties being cause by the Israelis than everything happening in Gaza makes Israelis look like genocidal psychopaths. Why do you think Israel isn't letting anyone see the footage or gain access to witness testimonies?

I'm not denying that atrocities occurred but I believe them to be highly embellished so people like you can eat it up.
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Jan 20 2024 11:44am
Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ Jan 20 2024 12:03pm)
Dude you are so mad that Israel is taking full strategic advantage of an attack that it probably knew was imminent. George W Bush did the same thing. Teddy Roosevelt did the same thing. Woodrow Wilson did the same thing. History isn't "new" it just repeats itself..

You keep gloating about how the Middle East is woopin' America but in reality we have 100x the control over the Middle East then it does "America".
You think because a group of grown ass men can acquire guns and start indiscrimately murdering people and take control of an area that they can't be "defeated"??? ..


I'm not mad that Israel false flaged itself and tool full advantage of their victim status. It has already been reported in Israeli media that the war cabinet was well aware of the imminent attack but choose to ignore it because that was always the plan. I'm mad that women/children are being killed for beachfront resorts.

The control America has in the ME is dwindling right in front of you my friend. Every base in syria/iraq is being targeted on the daily. Iraq has publicly said that its time for America to leave. The al-asad base just got hit by multiple missles, resulting in American casualties and the Red Sea is still closed.

He'll this ain't even taking into consideration what's happening in North Africa right now..there's a shiton of fires raging in Mena and the US just keeps getting battered without a clear objective in mind.
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Jan 20 2024 11:57am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Jan 20 2024 11:01am)
Israel do be lying though


You know what Israel, Russia and the US all have in common when it comes to propaganda? They all tell the truth when the truth is on their side. Because that's always the strongest case to be made
Everyone got ass blasted over Russia exposing how the DNC was rigging Hillary Clinton's primary in 2016, and yet all they did was put a spotlight on dirty laundry. And Julian Assange is still in prison for acts of journalism.
Hamas sent a horde of barbarians on a cross border pillaging raid in a scene straight out of the first millenia, something that hasn't been done anywhere in the world except Africa in modern times. Israel goes out of its way to give an honest accounting of it and publicize it to the world, because they know when the truth is on their side.
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Jan 20 2024 12:00pm
Quote (zorzin @ Jan 20 2024 07:33pm)
Says the guy who equated hamas throwing a grenade into a barracks, to israel using white phosphorus on civilians (not smokescreens)

If Oct7th proves in time to be a legitimate military incursion, with most of the civilian casualties being cause by the Israelis than everything happening in Gaza makes Israelis look like genocidal psychopaths. Why do you think Israel isn't letting anyone see the footage or gain access to witness testimonies?

I'm not denying that atrocities occurred but I believe them to be highly embellished so people like you can eat it up.


The families of the victims object using the footage. See, unlike the dark regimes which you support and unlike your Hamas heroes we don’t use our women and children to our benefit.
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