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Jan 19 2024 08:33am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Jan 19 2024 07:50am)
They almost all support its implementation, and 139/193 are already technically recognizing it. And the recent war crimes, supported by US, will not help in going in any different direction.


yes, and the republicans issued 100 different bills to repeal obama care while obama was in office, and would veto each one.

once trump entered office and a veto was no longer on the table they didnt repeal it, why?

its popular to call for a palestinian state, its popular to give them a completely ceremonial seat at the table. but that's because of the government in the west bank, not because of gaza. no one, un or otherwise, who has power wants gaza with hamas as its govt recognized as it's state. then net and yahoo says as much and says for gaza to have a state they need security oversight, and he's magically a zionist? i mean he is, but not because of that statement. to get gaza off of the israeli payroll they need a new overseeing body to prevent them from being terrorists. and who will that be? simple question, complicated answer.
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jan 19 2024 02:54pm)
And yet your essentially saying the October attacks of Hamas have improved the likelihood of an internationally recognised Palestinian state.

Why is Palestinian aggression rewarded and Israel reaction is derided?


I'm not "essentially saying". I am facing the facts of war crime level asymetric "responses".
Likud sponsorized Hamas for years, stole territories for years while discussing about sharing it etc... No way:they are guilty like fuck.
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Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 18 2024 03:01pm)
net and yahoo's statement


well done sir, well done... haha

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Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 19 2024 05:05am)
no, it doesnt. an observer state isnt a state. any university will let you sit in and observe classes, they dont give you credit or a diploma for it.


if it weren't for the United States consistently vetoing every tenable resolution, Palestine would absolutely be a state. seems thats hard for you to grasp as you are moving the goalposts again
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Jan 19 2024 11:48am
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if it weren't for the United States consistently vetoing every tenable resolution, Palestine would absolutely be a state. seems thats hard for you to grasp as you are moving the goalposts again


the UN can vote to make Israel give statehood to Palestine? you're tying your horse to the wrong cart, states aren't states just because the UN votes on it. the UN is a ceremonial organization.

there's about 100 factors i could bring up, but why waste me time? you just took a jpeg literally and didnt question it.
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the UN can vote to make Israel give statehood to Palestine? you're tying your horse to the wrong cart, states aren't states just because the UN votes on it. the UN is a ceremonial organization.

there's about 100 factors i could bring up, but why waste me time? you just took a jpeg literally and didnt question it.


man, you really dont know shit do you? you just type things out as if theyre facts

https://www.voanews.com/a/us-vetoes-palestinian-statehood-resolution-un/2579666.html
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Quote (gnarjay @ Jan 19 2024 11:53am)
man, you really dont know shit do you? you just type things out as if theyre facts

https://www.voanews.com/a/us-vetoes-palestinian-statehood-resolution-un/2579666.html


you're really having a hard time. i didnt claim you were wrong. then u follow up by posting a link as if i did lol.

at the risk of causing you to have a stroke, i am personally against the US's vetoes. take a second to think about that.

im just smart enough to realize it wouldnt have changed anything in gaza even if the US didnt veto it. post 10-7 gaza was run by a terrorist organization. even if "palestine" was given statehood in the west bank, and they should be, that doesnt change anything in gaza.

gaza was run by hamas, israel provided water and electricity, and the UN vote on statehood wouldnt have changed any of that. if it did, that would be worse for gaza, because if gaza is a "palestinian state" israel can shut off the water and electricity instantly.

these are all things someone who has thought for more than 12 seconds per post would realize. no one is suprised you keep posting links and pictures rather than thinking. you'll do it again in response to this.
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the guy "smart enough" that said the international community doesnt recognize Palestinian statehood? yeah, ok bud
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the guy "smart enough" that said the international community doesnt recognize Palestinian statehood? yeah, ok bud


i didnt say that, you just dont read well.

how about we start from a more productive standpoint, answer this thought experiment:

-we live in an alternate universe, 10-7 never happened.
-the UN votes for statehood of "palestine", including the US and ALL members

1. what happens in the West Bank

2. what happens in Gaza



the vote is very important to you, so clearly it must mean if the vote went through things would change. what are those things?

inb4 you dodge to requote my posts back to me because you dont understand them. cant even answer a few sentence question. prove me right.

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Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 19 2024 08:19pm)
i didnt say that, you just dont read well.

how about we start from a more productive standpoint, answer this thought experiment:

-we live in an alternate universe, 10-7 never happened.
-the UN votes for statehood of "palestine", including the US and ALL members

1. what happens in the West Bank

2. what happens in Gaza



the vote is very important to you, so clearly it must mean if the vote went through things would change. what are those things?

inb4 you dodge to requote my posts back to me because you dont understand them. cant even answer a few sentence question. prove me right.


He probably thinks that through international pressure (mainly financial) israel will crumble and will have no other choice than accept the reality which the world dictates.
I think the public here would prefer to blow the whole damn region up before that happens. Just my opinion.
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