Quote (Meanwhile @ May 2 2023 11:20pm)
What a mess. Far right Israeli governement is maintaining violences to get reelected. At least since Isaac Raabin assassination.
Meanwhile, You are using the Bible as a weapon.
Yeah it's called The Armor of God, found in Ephesians 6:10-20.
Why do you act so surprised that the Bible is brought into this? You're the one who mentioned the "genocides".
Quote (addone @ May 3 2023 07:48am)
This brings up a good point I haven't thought about if this "God" is all knowing he knew that Adam and Eve would eat the fruit, he knew all about evil things people will do, he knows everything about anyone any time. Yet acts all surprised, still kills people, gives children cancer
Meanwhile Christians in a robotic voice "this is the way!"
Also this doctrine on punishment is fucked up because let's say you made a door and that door didn't close how you want it to. You don't get mad at the door and burn the entire house down like a psycho. You just realise you installed a faulty door and then you fix it. What need is there for a God to be so butthurt that he sends his creation to burn forever? What's the lesson or purpose? How about just delete them entirely and skip all the extra steps? Why create the choice you don't want others to make in the first place?
Normal rational people: maybe just maybe the church created a boogyman to scare the plebs into attending their church and to fill their coffers with people's donations.
God created things which had free will. That means creatures which can go either wrong or right. Some people think they can imagine a creature which was free but had no possibility of going wrong; I cannot. If a thing is free to be good it is also free to be bad. And free will is what has made evil possible. Why, then, did God give them free will? Because free will though it makes evil possible, is also the only thing that makes possible any love or goodness or joy worth having. A world of automata-of creatures that worked like machines-would hardly be worth creating. The happiness which God designs for His higher creatures is the happiness of being freely, voluntarily united to Him and to each other in an ecstasy of love and delight compared with which the most rapturous love between a man and a woman on this earth is mere milk and water. And for that they must be free.
Of course God knew what would happen if they used their freedom the wrong way: apparently He thought it worth the risk. Perhaps we feel inclined to disagree with Him. But there is a difficulty about disagreeing with God. He is the source from which all your reasoning power comes: you could not be right and He wrong any more than a stream can rise higher than its own source. When you are arguing against Him you are arguing against the very power that makes you able to argue at all: it is like cutting off the branch you are sitting on. If God thinks this state of war in the universe a price worth paying for free will-that is, for making a live world in which creatures can do real good or harm and something of real importance can happen, instead of a toy world which only moves when He pulls the strings-then we may take it it is worth paying.
Quote (addone @ May 3 2023 11:46am)
I didn't ask the bible I am not talking to a book.
I asked you personally. How do you know it's God who revealed truth in the bible?
Stop hiding behind memes and quotes and other people's takes. No more dodging. You already stated that "God" revealed "truth" in the bible. So how do you know it's God?
Short answer is Prayer.
As a matter of fact, that is one of my favorite songs.