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Feb 6 2021 08:24am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Feb 6 2021 03:44am)
A major feature story about the election from Time magazine, the whole article is a good read:
https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/



OMEGALUL :rofl: :rofl:




Holy "accuse the other side of doing, what you are doing", Batman!!

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Holy "accuse the other side of doing, what you are doing", Batman!!


Which has been Trump's modus operandi for decades.
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Feb 6 2021 10:27am
Trump could be potentially looking at Federal wire fraud charges, here.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-campaign-shifted-money-into-indebted-private-business-forbes-2021-2

Using campaign funds to pay personal expenses is illegal, and a 20-year sentence could apply to each charge.
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Feb 6 2021 01:22pm
Quote (Surfpunk @ Feb 6 2021 11:27am)
Trump could be potentially looking at Federal wire fraud charges, here.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-campaign-shifted-money-into-indebted-private-business-forbes-2021-2

Using campaign funds to pay personal expenses is illegal, and a 20-year sentence could apply to each charge.


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The payments were made public in the filings the campaign submitted to the FEC and were listed to cover costs including rent, airfare, lodging, and other expenses.


If Trump openly reported it to the FEC, I doubt that this article is being honest.
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Feb 6 2021 02:00pm
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If Trump openly reported it to the FEC, I doubt that this article is being honest.


Yeah, it all depends on how payments were classified and used.
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Feb 6 2021 02:19pm
Quote (Surfpunk @ 6 Feb 2021 08:27)
Trump could be potentially looking at Federal wire fraud charges, here.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-campaign-shifted-money-into-indebted-private-business-forbes-2021-2

Using campaign funds to pay personal expenses is illegal, and a 20-year sentence could apply to each charge.


"Personal expenses" such as what? Campaign expenses, such as travel, lodging, food, etc. is not "personal expenses". Hell, even phones and other tech are fine.

In 2016 Trump flew all over the country in his private jet. He had a massive campaign expense regarding the costs of flying and crewing that jet back and forth between all those events. Is that now a "personal expense" just because he happened to own the jet?

It's funny that when Obama left it became all about Trump. Now that Trump's out, it's all about... Trump. Rather than talking about the guy who's NOT President, can you tell me what the 28 Executive Orders signed in the last 17 days by President Biden contain? I'm familiar with a few, but it's getting hard to keep up.

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"Personal expenses" such as what? Campaign expenses, such as travel, lodging, food, etc. is not "personal expenses". Hell, even phones and other tech are fine.

In 2016 Trump flew all over the country in his private jet. He had a massive campaign expense regarding the costs of flying and crewing that jet back and forth between all those events. Is that now a "personal expense" just because he happened to own the jet?

It's funny that when Obama left it became all about Trump. Now that Trump's out, it's all about... Trump. Rather than talking about the guy who's NOT President, can you tell me what the 28 Executive Orders signed in the last 17 days by President Biden contain? I'm familiar with a few, but it's getting hard to keep up.

indeed, and the loudest ones shrieking that they couldn’t wait for President Trump’s term to expire so they could “stop talking about him” are the ones still finding every excuse in the book to talk about him

Then again Pres biden has written zero $2k checks that were to be distributed “on day one”, is putting more kids in cages, no stimulus plan, and is following the Trump admin’s playbook on vaccine distribution so not much for the usual suspects to gloat about.
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Feb 6 2021 02:33pm
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indeed, and the loudest ones shrieking that they couldn’t wait for President Trump’s term to expire so they could “stop talking about him” are the ones still finding every excuse in the book to talk about him

Then again Pres biden has written zero $2k checks that were to be distributed “on day one”, is putting more kids in cages, no stimulus plan, and is following the Trump admin’s playbook on vaccine distribution so not much for the usual suspects to gloat about.


To be fair, nobody thought Biden could get checks sent "day one" anymore than Trump could "repeal and replace the ACA day one". Congress deals with legislation and appropriations, so that's on them.

We were all aware that a lot of what both candidates promised they couldn't realistically personally deliver on. The larger question would be what they can and do deliver on, which atm is a swathe of EOs.
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Feb 6 2021 02:40pm
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To be fair, nobody thought Biden could get checks sent "day one" anymore than Trump could "repeal and replace the ACA day one". Congress deals with legislation and appropriations, so that's on them.

We were all aware that a lot of what both candidates promised they couldn't realistically personally deliver on. The larger question would be what they can and do deliver on, which atm is a swathe of EOs.

people that voted in the runoffs in GA did. They voted based on said promises by Biden and Congressional leaders

https://abcnews4.com/news/nation-world/biden-says-2-dem-wins-in-georgia-mean-2k-checks

https://www.newsweek.com/biden-calls-2k-stimulus-checks-post-georgia-runoffs-least-one-democrat-opposes-1560266

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/532902-schumer-says-2k-checks-will-be-top-priority-of-democratic-controlled-senate

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2021/01/06/georgia-election-2000-stimulus-checks/
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Fair enough. So you're telling me that a politician lied. Am I supposed to be shocked? Or am I supposed to be shocked that people were stupid enough to believe the lie that was promoted by the "trusted news"?
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