What?

You posted a claim as if it’s a fact “diabetes linked with vaccinations”

No, there is no such link.

Your options:
1. Share an article if you wish to further your point if there is one
2. dodge and deflect per usual

This SHOULD be common knowledge and is taught very early on in probability courses.

I just realized part of my benefits covers free tuition for night classes at an associated institution. Totally gonna enroll in a higher statistics and programming courses. I aced my chemistry statistics classes, but they didn't go deep enough for what I need for biology.

Oh, angry now? Alright genius, let's go a different route. You've ALREADY acknowledged the existence of the link, you've ALREADY made a claim that it's debunked, so post your fucking proof.

The moment you acknowledged it you lost the right to claim it doesn't exist. So, go ahead now.

I recommend taking a course in non-neural network based machine learning. It's a lot more intuitive IMO and gives you a solid basis in how to deal with data on a practical level. There are a couple things that really blew my mind in college because they just didn't seem intuitive at first: special relativity and probability. Once you let the math guide you, things start to fall in place but it really is a mind-fuck at first.

JFC

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10221937/

No I’m not angry, more surprised at this regression and now basic things need to be spelled out. Here goes

No I didn’t acknowledge a link, I specifically said a link does not exist. Just because you spend time debunking a myth, does not validate the myth. Many thought the earth was flat, that vaccines caused autism, that vaccines caused diabetes. These were studied, methodically. These premises were found erroneous. The fact that these premises were studied, does not in anyway validate them

You are also confused where the burden of proof lies in conversation and who has responsibility to show.



Thank you I am such a liar 22 years ago not 20! What a Fkin liar

This post was edited by Bazi on Dec 22 2020 03:32pm

The concern I have is that you've claimed it's debunked. There was no "debunk". The overall gist, which is clearly expressed is that the case load of type 1 diabetes did increase specifically based on age of immunization. Every study confirmed that, but ran statistical models that claimed it was a natural variant. There was no medical or scientific "debunking". Once again, it boiled down to "Correlation does not equal causation."

This is part of the issue I have with the absolute certainty displayed in this thread regarding not only the virus, but the vaccine, and the measures that have been taken to... Mitigate it. None of you really know. It gets worse in that there's no way TO know regarding long term effects, because this form of vaccine is too new to have any such information. It gets even better when you openly admit you don't even know if the vaccine prevents people from being a carrier or not. It gets even better yet when you admit you don't know how long it provides any immunity. Is it possible that this vaccine may have problems? Sure. Is it possible it may not? Sure. Is it possible it may be helpful for the young and healthy (no comorbidities to take it)? Sure. Is it possible it's not? Sure. Is it possible that consistent results regarding H Flu + diabetes is a natural variant? Sure. Is it also possible that it's not? Sure. The problem, and it's a huge problem, isn't that new studies were formed in an attempt to determine if the results were outliers or flawed. New statistical models were built to indicate a different result without providing a different result.

This happens to be one of the largest problems in science today, especially medical science, and it's excessively frustrating. Rather than simply putting the information out there and letting people judge for themselves, or debunking via proving faulty results or methods, it's a bandwagon effort where statistical models are used to hide numbers and attempt to discredit the findings without disproving them.

It's effectively the scientific version of the Biden laptop. "It's all debunked, discredited!" "Nothing happened, it's a conspiracy" they all reported. Turns out when it's expedient, "Well, yeah, there's an active investigation and has been since before the election."

Do I care about Hunter Biden or his laptop? Fuck no. Do I think Joe Biden is corrupt and pay for play? Of course, all politicians are. Now, given the billions invested, and the insane levels of compensation increase due to all things related to covid and the vaccine, am I beginning to think that so called "healthcare experts" are quite likely corrupt as well? I mean, I want to know more about these $10K/week 2 year degree nurses. I'd like to know a bit more about the $3.5 Billion invested into Pfizer and Moderna. I'd like to know why simple questions such as, "If you can't tell how long a person is immune based on recovering from covid, and you can't tell how long a person is immune based on the vaccine, why should those who've caught it take the vaccine?" are answered with stupid shit like "ANTIVAXXER!"

No fewer than 10 times in the last couple days I've been reminded about our local "medical experts". Still haven't received any logical answers to perfectly reasonable questions. Is it because you simply don't wish to express ignorance, or are you every bit as corrupt as the politicians funding you?

You have a tendency to dodge and convolute so let’s try this another way and deal with one point at a time

Since it is you that made the claim that diabetes is associated with vaccinations, and it is you that holds the unconventional view on this matter - surely you understand where the burden of proof lies.

So I will ask again, do you have ONE article that can substantiate your claim:



thank you

Rebuttal the rebuttal does not validate the claim. True until proven false is not a thing

This post was edited by Bazi on Dec 22 2020 04:05pm

You truly truly truly need to work on your reading comprehension. You have difficulty following very linear conversation. Do yourself a favor and take some of your $600 for this:

https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/8th-grade-reading-comprehension-success_elizabeth-chesla/407696/item/5508606/?mkwid=%7Cdm&pcrid=448939279362&pkw=&pmt=&slid=&plc=&pgrid=104167485813&ptaid=pla-894501118442&gclid=CjwKCAiAz4b_BRBbEiwA5XlVVmRup9HU6ywoICvAxvvxEkDb_LK5DiKIRCysGj2rB6Q4WBo-UB542RoCnCAQAvD_BwE#isbn=1576853918&idiq=5508606



It’s like you go on a cycle every 2 days repeating yourself. This was 10 days ago buddy

Wait is this jere? Am I being trolled ?

This post was edited by Bazi on Dec 22 2020 04:10pm