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#8621
May 16 2022 10:48pm
Quote (Nibthebarb @ May 16 2022 09:25pm)
Pssst, only incels and rejects from society go on shooting sprees. So when you finally snap and end up in federal max, I highly suggest cozying up to the biggest meanest black dude there. I'm sure at this point, that comes naturally to you. :)



Wow a classic I'm rubber you are glue. It's like you never graduated grade school.
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May 16 2022 10:53pm
Quote (thundercock @ 17 May 2022 06:42)
Fuck Jose and Ping's grandkids b/c I'd rather cater to leaches to get votes
-Black

I never pegged you to be a Bernie/squad supporter. Again, doing the right thing is NOT popular and won't win you elections. This is why the Democrats should just rip the band aid off now since they won't win in 2022 and the American people will simply forget by 2024.


Wanting politics which (at least try to) preserve the purchasing power of the masses makes me a Bernie supporter, seriously? ;)

Also, it does make a difference whether Democrats go into 2024 with 50 Senate seats or with 45. Similarly, I think it would be a huge miscalculation to assume that the people will just forget and forgive a 15-25% loss of purchasing power over the years leading up to the 2024 election. Maybe you are a closet Trump supporter and want him to govern with supermajorities in Congress. :P
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May 16 2022 11:15pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ May 16 2022 09:53pm)
Wanting politics which (at least try to) preserve the purchasing power of the masses makes me a Bernie supporter, seriously? ;)

Also, it does make a difference whether Democrats go into 2024 with 50 Senate seats or with 45. Similarly, I think it would be a huge miscalculation to assume that the people will just forget and forgive a 15-25% loss of purchasing power over the years leading up to the 2024 election. Maybe you are a closet Trump supporter and want him to govern with supermajorities in Congress. :P


At the expense of our future and national security? Absolutely.

Democrats can just force the legislation AFTER 2022 and before the next Congress is sworn in. That should take care of the Senate at least.

You severely overestimate how engaged Americans are when it comes to politics.
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May 17 2022 02:34am
Quote (thundercock @ May 16 2022 09:42pm)
What policies are you advocating here?


Electing a Trump or Trump-like administration. Yes, the economic battlefield is different now, but we currently have leaders who believe that humanity should do less, be less, build less, consume less. They would sacrifice purchasing power and economic stability for individuals in order to fortify their power which they commonly refer to as "our Democracy". They don't understand that virtually everything we use and own is a consumable which must continue to be produced. They don't understand that money's value changes when there's more money and the same or less stuff money buys. They believe they can "jumpstart the economy" by printing money, and likely soon, price controls justified by the claim of "price gouging". Which, as I'm sure you understand, inevitably leads to shortages and outright empty shelves.

A Trump or Trump-like regime would undoubtedly work to remove barriers to businesses producing more, and would most likely bring a resolution to Ukraine/Russia that would alleviate those markets. I know Trump himself is off-putting, but even normie pundits and centrist historians point to the Trump administration as having established policies that by and large benefited all Americans economically. Even the never Trumper dweebs admit that.

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May 17 2022 05:35am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ May 17 2022 02:11am)
Intentionally strangling the economy and triggering a recession sounds like a bad idea. Combating inflation this way would be giga-foolish if you ask me. And a significant chunk of the current inflation is caused by soaring energy prices and supply chain issues, so there's not even a guarantee that you wouldn't thrust the economy into stagflation instead of achieving a "soft landing". The real answer to the current inflation is getting the industrial and gas/oil production back up. The excess money supply can be dealt with by a couple of FED interest hikes.

The truth about the current inflation, which is high all around the globe, is that the world is now paying the price for the covid lockdowns and restrictions. A ton of stuff wasn't produced, so now there's excess demand, which leads to inflation. Me and pretty much every opponent of the lockdown policies have been warning since March 2020 that this misguided course will cost all of us far more wealth than people imagine. :rolleyes:



And these types of tax increases will be politically unsustainable. People are already pissed because they see their purchasing power melt away like Biden's ice cones in the sun - slapping people with extra tax hikes in the current situation will get you president Trump 2.0, this time with 60+ seats in the Senate and 300+ House seats.


we are at a point where even the dumbest person should realise that supply chain issues, inflation etc are weaponised by governments and big corp on purpose
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May 17 2022 05:36am
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ May 17 2022 07:35am)
we are at a point where even the dumbest person should realise that supply chain issues, inflation etc are weaponised by governments and big corp on purpose


Yes Occupy Wall Street was right, but most people missed the train completely, and jumped on astroturf movements like Tea Party and MAGA that are run by billionaires for billionaires.

Add minimum wage, private health care, lack of parental leave and other paid benefits, and all other consequences of the decline of unionism in America.

If you want to make America great again, it was unions, not spoiled inheritors.

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May 17 2022 06:12am
Quote (Skinned @ May 17 2022 01:36pm)
Yes Occupy Wall Street was right, but most people missed the train completely, and jumped on astroturf movements like Tea Party and MAGA that are run by billionaires for billionaires.

Add minimum wage, private health care, lack of parental leave and other paid benefits, and all other consequences of the decline of unionism in America.

If you want to make America great again, it was unions, not spoiled inheritors.


what i am talking about is at least a level above

i am talking about the left forcing their socialist agenda by turning essentials into luxury, forcing an allegedly "green" lifestyle by just pricing people out of mobility and things to buy

i am talking about the future average joe never being able to own a home with prices through the roof and major investment players owning the rest, small businesses cant compete for material anymore and get pushed out of the market

thanks to bullshit like the rent moratorium small investors who need to the rent payments to pay the bank got rekt in many places, while corporations cashed in on covid relief money scams

some dumbass unions cant fight that and there is no way a minimun wage could ever keep up with this fuckery

congrats, eventually it was the political left that sold out the working class :rofl:
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May 17 2022 08:35am
Quote (Skinned @ 17 May 2022 13:36)
Yes Occupy Wall Street was right, but most people missed the train completely, and jumped on astroturf movements like Tea Party and MAGA that are run by billionaires for billionaires.

Add minimum wage, private health care, lack of parental leave and other paid benefits, and all other consequences of the decline of unionism in America.

If you want to make America great again, it was unions, not spoiled inheritors.

Funny how you omit BLM/wokism in your list of things that the elites threw at the normies to distract them from Occupy Wall Street and similar calls for soaking the rich and the banks in the wake of the Great Recession. Also funny how you include MAGA in your list although the Republican establishment and the donor class tried their best to stop Trump from getting the nomination (which failed because they were unable to present any alternative candidate which was palatable to the base).




Talking about unions: just yesterday, the largest service jobs union here in Germany negotiated a new CBA which gives employees a pay raise of 5% over the course of 24 months. With inflation standing at 7.5%, this amounts to the union having settled on a 10% real wage decrease for their members. And then people wonder why unionization rates keep going down. I know the situation is similar in most other European countries, and I would guess it's the same story in the U.S. Who the fuck needs unions like that? They have become fucking useless and morphed into closet corporate allies...
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#8629
May 17 2022 08:38am
https://manateeherald.com/2022/05/17/durbin-theres-a-lot-of-price-gouging-and-record-job-creation-comes-with-inflation/

according to the leftist government swamp demons, reopening jobs that were shut off for 2 years is “record job creation” and justifies govt-influenced record inflation levels.

December 2019/January 2020 (before the CCP virus) we had actual record job creation and regular old 2% inflation



https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/inflation-rate-cpi
U.S. inflation rate for 2019 was 1.81%, a 0.63% decline from 2018
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May 17 2022 11:16am
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