Quote (Thor123422 @ 22 Dec 2020 09:20)

Wrong.

That's literally the first thing they study before they do large phase 3 studies for effectiveness.

You are also totally ignoring that most people who receive the vaccine have no significant side effects, while playing up asymptomatic covid cases. Unless you seriously expect me to consider that you have a sore arm for a day a side effect worth considering.

Quote (AutismBobb @ Dec 22 2020 12:29pm)

LOL. How do you study the long term (Read: Years) impact of something that has only existed for a few months?

Cigarettes are safe dude, just smoke your prescription and stop whining about the smell.

Asbestos is the best fire retardant ever. Just install the insulation and stop asking questions.

Again, you do not KNOW the long term side effects, or even whether there are any, not just for this vaccine, but for this TYPE of vaccine, because they've never been used.

I'm not playing up or playing down anything. I'm giving an honest account of risk vs reward. Current data indicates 40% of Americans who've tested positive for covid are 100% asymptomatic. Meaning, they got it and didn't even know. So, why don't you go tell them, "Hey man, uh... I know your covid wasn't even like, uh... A thing but hey, can we inject this new drug into your arm, give you a guaranteed sore arm, possibly these other slightly unpleasant symptoms, so you'll be vaccinated?" "Like, will it boost my immunity or something?" "Dunno, but we want everyone vaccinated." "Any long term risks?" "Dunno, it's a new type of vaccine never used before, developed this year." "Wut?"

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Dec 22 2020 11:29am)

LOL. How do you study the long term (Read: Years) impact of something that has only existed for a few months?

Cigarettes are safe dude, just smoke your prescription and stop whining about the smell.

Asbestos is the best fire retardant ever. Just install the insulation and stop asking questions.

Again, you do not KNOW the long term side effects, or even whether there are any, not just for this vaccine, but for this TYPE of vaccine, because they've never been used.

I'm not playing up or playing down anything. I'm giving an honest account of risk vs reward. Current data indicates 40% of Americans who've tested positive for covid are 100% asymptomatic. Meaning, they got it and didn't even know. So, why don't you go tell them, "Hey man, uh... I know your covid wasn't even like, uh... A thing but hey, can we inject this new drug into your arm, give you a guaranteed sore arm, possibly these other slightly unpleasant symptoms, so you'll be vaccinated?" "Like, will it boost my immunity or something?" "Dunno, but we want everyone vaccinated." "Any long term risks?" "Dunno, it's a new type of vaccine never used before, developed this year." "Wut?"

Quote (Skinned @ 22 Dec 2020 09:31)

Medical side effects usually come and go within two weeks. That's why I'm opting in during the second offering at work because i want to see what the first one does to my colleagues first.

You make examples of things not related to health care but give an example of a vaccine going horribly awry.

And vaccines do not cause autism.

Quote (Thor123422 @ 22 Dec 2020 09:33)

mrna treatments have been on the market for a while. This is the first application as a vaccine but these kinds of treatments have years long safety data already.

You are ignorant of the science and the state of the field so you are incapable of giving a well informed assessment of the risk. This is why we listen to experts not idiots

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Dec 22 2020 12:50pm)

Doctors prescribing cigarettes is absolutely healthcare related. And we can start going down the list of FDA approved drugs, foods, and other such that turned out to be devastatingly harmful. I'm just not particularly interested in doing so.

Nobody claimed vaccines cause autism. You feeling okay?

And I'm thrilled to hear you've made a decision! I hope once you get your vaccine that the only side effect is a sore arm. Best of luck. :hug:



LOL, multiple types of mRNA treatments utilizing different methodology. This particular type has not been marketed or extensively tested for long term adverse effects. Just shut up, sit down, and stop pretending to to be an expert in what is quite literally emerging science. You don't know and can't know because nobody knows and the science isn't in.

If you want to discuss the vaccine honestly, your best bet is to say, "We think it'll be helpful, we don't know for sure. We think it'll be free of long term side effects, we don't know for sure. If it works, however, without any severe long term side effects, it will fast track the approval process for an entire new branch of vaccines that were previously not slated to be anywhere near market-ready for another decade."

As it turns out, I do follow the science. Maybe you should too. :)

Edit: Note that I'm more interested in the Rabies vaccine than anything else. Rabies being incurable means a vaccine might be super helpful, especially in more rural areas where help is far away and the tendency is to shrug off anything that doesn't appear life threatening right that moment.

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Dec 22 2020 11:50am)

I know everything on every subject and nobody else will ever contribute anything to my pool of ultimate knowledge

Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 22 2020 12:57pm)

You can just type this and it will save everybody a lot of time.

Quote (Skinned @ 22 Dec 2020 09:56)

I tolerated being vaccinated for anthrax and whatever else i got in the gauntlet of army injections.

I smoked in my 20s too, which is way worse for my body than some antibodies will be lol.

Quote (Thor123422 @ 22 Dec 2020 09:57)

You can just type this and it will save everybody a lot of time.

Quote (balrog66 @ Dec 22 2020 12:15pm)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG4VkPoG3ko

Another great video by 3Blue1Brown, this time on the predictiveness of medical tests.