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Feb 2 2020 12:53pm
Quote (bogie160 @ 2 Feb 2020 13:41)
I don't watch Fox News.

It's a little ironic being called a dupe of media talking points from a guy who goes around calling the Senate Majority Leader "Moscow Mitch".

“duhcrossbones” post contents are like if vox/huffpo/buzzfeed/msnbc had a bot packaging together and posting their conspiracy theories.

he’s certainly at the very least a pale pasty privileged lefty giving fauxnews revenue by how much he watches it each day and cries about it on here lmao not a smart fella that user
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Feb 2 2020 12:59pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Feb 2 2020 12:44pm)
Just because Trump's behavior doesnt rise to the level of removal doesnt mean that he has been exonerated or that there was no misconduct. The idea of an investigation into Trump's actions regarding Ukraine is not a farce, it was legitimate.
Of course the Democrats have turned a legit investigation into a hyperpartisan impeachment circus which pretends to care about morals, integrity and preserving instiutions, although scoring political points by getting as much dirt to stick with the GOP president as possible has been their main (and only realistic) goal from day one.


It makes me weep for humanity that Bogie has felt the need to lower himself to the level of Ghot.
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Feb 2 2020 01:00pm
Quote (excellence @ Feb 2 2020 10:53am)
“duhcrossbones” post contents are like if vox/huffpo/buzzfeed/msnbc had a bot packaging together and posting their conspiracy theories.

he’s certainly at the very least a pale pasty privileged lefty giving fauxnews revenue by how much he watches it each day and cries about it on here lmao not a smart fella that user


wut? Name something i've posted that is a "conspiracy theory" LOL
name me some other news sources that are in alignment with "fake news" etc. That the media is the enemy of the state.
Give me a list of the news outlets that used to text directly with Obama to make sure they were in alignment.
Ill wait.
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Feb 2 2020 01:04pm
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It makes me weep for humanity that Bogie has felt the need to lower himself to the level of Ghot.


As so often during the Trump era, the bottom line of a lengthy discussion is the realization that
"partisanship is one hell of a drug".
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Feb 2 2020 01:06pm
Quote (theCrossbones @ Feb 2 2020 01:43pm)
Yup I like that one. And ALL of your talking points are straight Fox agenda's. If not Fox what YouTuber gives you all these ideas to keep re stating?


It's telling and more than a little concerning that you can't imagine forming your political views outside of mainstream cable news and Youtube.
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Feb 2 2020 01:09pm
Quote (bogie160 @ Feb 2 2020 11:06am)
It's telling and more than a little concerning that you can't imagine forming your political views outside of mainstream cable news and Youtube.


You are making false assumptions.. In this forum I get quoted Fox and Copy pasted to YouTubers.. Its what I get from the R leaning people in this forum.
Try again
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Feb 2 2020 01:15pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Feb 2 2020 01:04pm)
As so often during the Trump era, the bottom line of a lengthy discussion is the realization that
"partisanship is one hell of a drug".


The older generations didn't need to be as skeptical of the media. With deregulation in the 90's the profit motive for media companies dominated and we saw the birth of the modern cable news station, with Fox being the most extreme example. People born around then have grown up with hyper-partisan news and most notably the internet and have been trained to be more skeptical of media in general. Additionally as cords are cut and older generations die we will see a greater decline of cable news. However, it's most likely to be replaced with other partisan sources founded on social media. So I'm not sure it will get better.
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Feb 2 2020 01:36pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Feb 2 2020 01:44pm)
Just because Trump's behavior doesnt rise to the level of removal doesnt mean that he has been exonerated or that there was no misconduct. The idea of an investigation into Trump's actions regarding Ukraine is not a farce, it was legitimate.
Of course the Democrats have turned a legit investigation into a hyperpartisan impeachment circus which pretends to care about morals, integrity and preserving instiutions, although scoring political points by getting as much dirt to stick with the GOP president as possible has been their main (and only realistic) goal from day one.


Key words are "impeachment worthy offense". It's beyond embarrassing that Trump can't help but find himself in these situations.

I wish there were adults in the room. The Democrats had an opportunity to thoroughly embarrass the president. Instead they succumbed to the hysteria that has taken over the left wing of their party and rushed through impeachment proceedings for an offense that could never rise to the level of impeachment.
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Feb 2 2020 01:46pm
and EXACTLY as i predicted, all the shills and apologists resort to the non-sensical and cowardly 'well, it might not have been 100% perfect, but it was CERTAINLY not worthy of impeachment, and republicans refusing to have a real trial and prevent as much information as possible to become public, just proves what an embarrassment the democrats are... somehow' narrative.

sure, abusing the office to withhold congessionally sanctioned military aid to an ally at war, in order to pressure a foreign government into providing dirt on a domestic political opponent, 'does certainly not rise to the level of removal'. that's just trump being trump - if you don't like it, just vote him out - through elections he was repeatedly caught rigging, which this whole impeachment process was about...

This post was edited by fender on Feb 2 2020 01:52pm
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Feb 2 2020 02:14pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ 2 Feb 2020 20:15)
The older generations didn't need to be as skeptical of the media. With deregulation in the 90's the profit motive for media companies dominated and we saw the birth of the modern cable news station, with Fox being the most extreme example. People born around then have grown up with hyper-partisan news and most notably the internet and have been trained to be more skeptical of media in general. Additionally as cords are cut and older generations die we will see a greater decline of cable news. However, it's most likely to be replaced with other partisan sources founded on social media. So I'm not sure it will get better.


I think it's not just the media landscape. All the things you listed played a big role in the emergence of hyperpartisanship, but imho, there are additional factors. The divides found in the American society are largely playing out as well in other Western countries. Imho, aside from the media factors, the largest driver of this polarization is globalization, which has divided western societies in winners and losers, both economically and culturally.
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