you have no idea if there would be a detectable interference pattern because again that assumes the regularity of nature, the laws of physics could have been entirely different and you are assuming they behaved in a way that would produce a detectable interference pattern today.

If the laws of physics changed in a manner that would not produce a detectable pattern, that means you are assuming a cause devoid of effect…

Like I said irrelevant. One wrong belief doesn't constitute the other belief being right. I already mentioned that I don't believe in big bang and the initial miracle you are arguing for things I never claimed.

this is potentially the case, but science itself cannot justify why cause and effect must be the case or nature must behave in a reliable way.
I am not saying that nature itself is unreliable or induction isn't true, but I am saying science cannot give an account for the tools it relies on

And this is why your beliefs are relevant. Do you believe in a universe that sprang from a miracle? If so, you have no grounds to ridicule others for the exact same belief. If not then you have to explain how that could possibly be the case.

Wrong on all counts
One wrong set of beliefs doesn't make another set of beliefs automatically correct. They have to be proven on their own merits. This is False Dilemma Fallacy or false dichotomy.

Even if I believed in a universe that sprang from a miracle (which I don't) that is not exact same belief. That is comparing apples to oranges just like comparing Christianity to Norse mythogy or bullshit with dogshit.
The only common denominator is they all fairytales.

A tree in a forrest doesn't have to explain how it fell it just did. You have to prove it independently.
Likewise I don't owe you an explanation on behalf of the Universe how it originated.

he didn't say the other one is automatically correct, he is simply saying you have no grounds to even criticize others

False dichotomy assumes that I am setting up a dichotomy. I'm not. If you read my posts this should be obvious because my entire point is that there is no dichotomy lol... We have one option, you're too scared to even admit that you chose it.

Christians clearly do.

Since I repeatedly stated that I do not believe in creation from nothing or some kind of magical event. I can very much critique those people who do.
Even if I did believe in a magical explanation (which I don't) that wouldn't stop me from making judgements on christian magical explanation.
But that would be fruitless exercise since we would just be swapping bullshit stories.

This post was edited by addone on Feb 16 2026 04:59pm

you have no justification for your belief, you are simply asserting things on faith so any religious person can say they have the same grounding as you

how do you not understand this