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Oct 25 2024 12:54am
Quote (tommyd323 @ Oct 25 2024 02:49am)
Not sure anyone caught this but the Janssen “J&J” vaccine was not mRNA. It was the traditional vaccine of all the options.


There a are multiple factual wrong statements in his walls of texts, he somewhere implies that "covid particles move with the speed of sound in the air". I just assume he reads stuff, understands a third of it and then misrembers half of that (small particles, e.g. atoms move with speed of sound in air - bigger particles obviously don't, source: throw some dust into the air).

My conclusion is he is mad that his mother got hurt and every possible sane discussion died there. I understand that, I would be too if I thought the vaccine mandate made a loved ones health worse.
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This post was edited by gnarjay on Oct 25 2024 01:17am
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Quote (SkySwallower @ 25 Oct 2024 01:54)
There a are multiple factual wrong statements in his walls of texts, he somewhere implies that "covid particles move with the speed of sound in the air". I just assume he reads stuff, understands a third of it and then misrembers half of that (small particles, e.g. atoms move with speed of sound in air - bigger particles obviously don't, source: throw some dust into the air).

My conclusion is he is mad that his mother got hurt and every possible sane discussion died there. I understand that, I would be too if I thought the vaccine mandate made a loved ones health worse.


You don't know how to decipher what I'm saying sarcastically because this is the internet not a face to face conversation.

Tell me how 500 people in a Costco(grocery store) wearing masks are "totally protected" without sounding like a total retard. If all 500 were wearing masks(they were) are you saying that the people aren't sharing the air with the people around them. Do you think when you go up and down aisles in a grocery store and you pass someone that you don't share "breathe" when literally walking "right next to them". No. From the second you walked into that grocery store you were breathing in particles that came out of someone elses mouth. The shitty little mask protecting you from 15% of particles isn't bulletproof protection. You would literally have to wear an oxygen tank with a feedback loop to not share "air" with the people around you.

What about the people in that store who picked up a product with their BARE hand and put it down. 20 minutes later someone picks up that product. Buys it and takes it home. If their hands weren't perfectly clean you are now in skin to skin contact with someone you never had a face to face encounter. It's why the real crazy Covid people wore "Surgeon gloves".

Quote (tommyd323 @ 24 Oct 2024 19:49)
Not sure anyone caught this but the Janssen “J&J” vaccine was not mRNA. It was the traditional vaccine of all the options.


I misspoke after typing 72 paragraphs good job you found where I slipped up! Which vaccine my friends mom took and is now dead. You caught me! I thought it was J&J it must've been another one but the point I was making is that my friends mom took the vaccine she was mandated too every year since Covid began. My friends mom took multiple vaccine + boosters + flu shot every year just to keep her job. She's dead after being in perfect health. After taking the 3rd or 4th vaccine she died 2 months after. Cancer spread through her body and killed her in 2 months.

I appreciate you guys giving thorough responses like I do. I appreciate you reporting me. I appreciate the fact that I know your wrong and I'm right.

Notice how I give my responses off the top of my head? Notice how I respond immediately and the only "edits" I make are because I typed so fast that I misspelt words in the process.

How about you both negate everything I'm saying with FACTS and not "Haha I have a masters degree!" or "Haha he said J&J mRNA and that was a "regular vaccine". You guys really made me look so dumb!!! lmao :rofl: :drool: :banana:

edit: I'll give a simple example and you can tell me I'm wrong.

You walk into your grocery store wearing a mask. An employee at the grocery store has Covid-19 but is asymptomatic. He is a 18 year old kid who is responsible for moving products around the store. His shift started at 5am and the store opens at 9am. He touches HUNDREDS of products that people throughout the day will buy and take home. He was "breathing" in the store with a mask on for 4hours. Where are the particles? Did they disappear into the "ether"? No. They are "lingering all over the store and you 100% will come into contact with "some" of them even if you are wearing "surgeon gloves" and 2x mask. Refute that "master statistician"... :bouncy:

This post was edited by SwamiVivekananda on Oct 25 2024 12:29pm
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Oct 25 2024 12:27pm
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I mean you give quick long responses that are factually wrong, who does that help? I can let chatgpt write a 25 Page paragraph on why I think you badly suffer from self overestimation. You clearly do not understand what you read but are also insufferably self righteous.

There is no known link between the COVID vaccine and cancer. This was in all likelihood a coincidence. There is a link to myocarditis and there is a discussion to be had that healthy young people were forced to take it to protect older people, but not with you because in all honesty you are an idiot.

Masks limit the amount of body Fluid you spread, thats why doctors wear them all day. It doesn't limit the amount to zero, it's just better than nothing at very little cost.

I am out, stay in your echo chamber of strong healthy unvaccinated alpha males. You are clearly not interested in any reasonable discussion.

One last edit: you keep quoting me saying i am admitting or not admitting stuff, i am literally saying exactly the same stuff since my first post. If you were a little less up your own arse and would take the 10 seconds it takes to actually read my posts you would have realized by now that I am sceptical if the handling of the vaccination was correct. Also calling you an idiot is not an insult, it is am observation after trying to read 10 long pages of your conspiracy theories mixed in with persinal anecdotes and misunderstanding of verifiable facts.

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Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ Oct 25 2024 05:41am)
I will leave 10 statements 10 food for thought.

1) Covid-19 was engineered in a lab in Wuhan, China by elements of the US military government and Chinese military government. It was not a "random event". Because research of it was so controversial in Chapel Hill, North Carolina they moved it to Wuhan, China(this is no longer disputed it's a fact). A bat didn't fuck a monkey and then piss on fish in a "fish market". Both China and US avoided accountability by playing the "blame game". Both were complicit in the development of Covid-19. Whether you want to believe it was "purposefully released" or accidentally doesn't matter. It was made in a weapons grade bio-lab.

2) This SUPPORTS the notion that their was a "vaccine" already available. The first thing you do after making a "bio-weapon" is develop the "cure". This means that the entire time while they were saying, "We don't know where it came from and it's so dangerous was a blatant lie". Dr Fauci in 2011 was working on "Covid-19" and in 2016 prior to Trump being elected he stood on a podium and said, "Trump will face an infectious disease like never before seen during his administration". How did he know? Because he was developing Covid-19 and the vaccine.

3) Trump then listened to health experts and gave the "thumbs up" to "Project Warpspeed" which allowed all the vaccine makers to become (Void of litigation). Pharma companies KNEW they didn't have proper "long term testing" so they knew people would be damaged by the vaccine so what did they ask for "immunity". This is "antithetical" to science itself. You cannot argue against this fact. Like I said Phizer doesn't have to release it's data until 2076(anyone who took their vaccine will be long gone dead). If it was so effective why not release it that day? 50 years? Give me a break that should be a RED flag to anyone with half a brain.

4) On the inserts of every vaccine their is a laundry list of short term and long term side affects. One year after the first vaccines were administered the VAERS(Vaccine adverse events reporting system) went off the charts. Why? Because all the other vaccines had PROPER short and long term studies. The Covid vaccines DID NOT. So when you did the side-by-side comparison of "safe and effective vaccines" with the "Covid vaccine" you saw 100x-1000x "adverse events reported". This is people who took the vaccine and immediately reported side effects. Because the numbers were "off the chart" they had to REMOVE the Covid vaccine from VAERS because any rational person would be like "woahhhhh these things aren't safe look at all these people reporting myocarditis/abnormal blood clotting/etc.

5) 1st World countries who had access to the Covid vaccine reported the highest numbers(they were the highest percentage of populations that took it). But some African countries who couldn't get the vaccine or didn't want to saw NONE of these adverse events and Covid was a "nothingburger" in their countries.

6) The Covid Lockdowns killed more people then Covid itself. You can't shut down "life-saving medicine" "life-saving treatment" to poor countries and not expect people to DIE. You can't cut off 3rd world countries from the small "aid" they got from the international community and expect them to LIVE. They didn't. Look at South America and the countries that were 100% reliant on tourism for their GDP. It went to ZERO. No one could travel. The people who made their living selling to tourist couldn't make a buck and were starving in the streets. It's why you saw the largest influxes of immigration from poor countries. That wasn't Covid. That was international mandates/protocols. Should they have just starved in their home country or did they walk their asses all the way to some 1st world country and pray they may live another day.

7) "Excess death mortality rates skyrocketed". This goes hand and hand with what I mentioned above. People were dying from lack of access to resources like "food and medicine". People who took the vaccine were expericing "side effects" that damaged them or in rare cases KILLED them. Imagine the dad who got his son the Covid vaccine and his son in less then 12 hours DIED from myocarditis. Type in his story if you want to cry because the guy thought he was doing the right thing getting his son the vaccine. Did he think it would kill his son? No. He's spent every day since exposing the dangerous side effects of the vaccine.

8) Our governments with the collaboration of governments around the world covered up the true origin of Covid-19. Although the US and China "made it" they like I said played the blame game to avoid accountability because they were equally responsible.

9) Our members of congress got FAR richer by KNOWING which Pharma companies were going to get the big (100million doses to 1 billion doses "deals") with government tax payer money. They all invested in Moderna and Biontech which were directly funded by Dr. Fauci and Bill Gates. Total conflict of interest but they got the big government deals. These two companies in 2011 were working on Covid-19. Did they tell the public that? No. They rely on the average citizens around the world having the memory of a goldfish and to never question what the government put us all through during Covid. They gave tiny checks to citizens who lost their jobs/livelihood and more as if it would help. It didn't.

10) Knowing full well the government created Covid and had the vaccine in their back pocket all along why did they launch a total fear/panic campaign pretending they didn't know how it was made or how they could "solve it"

If you read all 10 of these and think the governments response was honest/moral understand that you have been misled with misinformation/disinformation. Hard to argue with these now "AFTER the FACT" when most people accept "Covid is gone or doesn't exist". That doesn't prevent big pharma from telling you to get your yearly Covid booster/ flu shot at the same time. It's 2025 almost and they still pull the "Covid boogeyman" as returning with a mutant version of the strain to scare you when it's nothing worse then the common cold.

Hope this helps.


You think the millions of children who took the vaccine will be dead in 38 years?
Why would anyone continue reading this novel after reaching that line?
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Oct 25 2024 12:45pm
Quote (SkySwallower @ 25 Oct 2024 13:27)
I mean you give quick long responses that are factually wrong, who does that help? I can let chatgpt write a 25 Page paragraph on why I think you badly suffer from self overestimation. You clearly do not understand what you read but are also insufferably self righteous.

There is no known link between the COVID vaccine and cancer. This was in all likelihood a coincidence. There is a link to myocarditis and there is a discussion to be had that healthy young people were forced to take it to protect older people, but not with you because in all honesty you are an idiot.

Masks limit the amount of body Fluid you spread, thats why doctors wear them all day. It doesn't limit the amount to zero, it's just better than nothing at very little cost.

I am out, stay in your echo chamber of strong healthy unvaccinated alpha males. You are clearly not interested in any reasonable discussion.


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Personal attacks don't refute anything I've said in FULL. You are choosing to attack the 10% of what I'm saying that is partially inaccurate while "agreeing" I'm right about other things. I am a fallible human being and admit when I'm wrong in this scenario it's you who is wrong.

1) You admit kids were forced to take the vaccine and it gave some of them myocarditis and some DIED.

2) You admit masks prevent "some transmission" but not all transmission.

3) You won't admit the origins of Covid-19 because you don't know.

4) You won't admit that the development of the Covid vaccine bypassed short/long term studies which is antithetical to science itself.

5) You won't admit that the VAERS(vaccine adverse events reporting system) went off the charts comparative to other safer/well studied vaccines because it was rushed to "production". Operation "Warpspeed".

6) You won't admit that all of the vaccine makers are VOL(Void of litigation) for the reason listed above. The vaccine makers knew there would be TONS of side effects in an untested product so they asked for "immunity" from the government. This is why people that were damaged by the vaccine can't sue the government/vaccine maker. In other countries they can. Not in the United States

7) You admit that "masks" aren't %100 percent effective which shows transmission still happens even if it's "reduced:.

8) Vaccine makers in other countries are being SUED by citizens who were damaged by the vaccine.

9) Natural immunity is better then the vaccine 100% it's not refutable. They lied to the public when they said "natural immunity" "isn't enough". This is a lie and why some are being sued because the government told you you needed to take something you technically didn't have to. Young people and healthy people didn't need the Covid vaccine the chances of them dying was miniscule but yet everyone was mandated to take it.

10) Even when I give you real world examples from my own life you say I must be lying or stretching the truth. I'm not. These are my opinions and some are backed by FACTS and some are not.

Have a nice day brother make sure to take this seasons "Covid-19 vaccine + flu shot + booster" it's "safe and effective". :rofl: :wacko:
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Oct 25 2024 12:48pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ 25 Oct 2024 13:30)
You think the millions of children who took the vaccine will be dead in 38 years?
Why would anyone continue reading this novel after reaching that line?


They are already dying from myocarditis now/today so yea I'm sure some more will die along the way. One death is a tragedy when the government mandates you or brainwashes you into thinking your natural immunity isn't enough.

Doesn't take much research to see people "dropping dead" from the vaccine. Having strokes right after they get injected. People seizing out on the floor right after taking it. Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS) in young girls who took the vaccine.

Doesn't take much to look up people who died right after taking the vaccine. Young healthy people drop dead or are damaged and what's your argument. Let me know.
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Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ Oct 26 2024 05:48am)
They are already dying from myocarditis now/today so yea I'm sure some more will die along the way. One death is a tragedy when the government mandates you or brainwashes you into thinking your natural immunity isn't enough.

Doesn't take much research to see people "dropping dead" from the vaccine. Having strokes right after they get injected. People seizing out on the floor right after taking it. Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS) in young girls who took the vaccine.

Doesn't take much to look up people who died right after taking the vaccine. Young healthy people drop dead or are damaged and what's your argument. Let me know.


If you understood how spike proteins work you would know the vaccine is not going to have any negative effects this long after taking it.
If your ridiculous theory was correct hundreds of millions of people would have died in 2021-2022.
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Quote (Plaguefear @ 25 Oct 2024 14:14)
If you understood how spike proteins work you would know the vaccine is not going to have any negative effects this long after taking it.
If your ridiculous theory was correct hundreds of millions of people would have died in 2021-2022.


That's not true because they are making Covid vaccines "annuals" like "Flu shots" which means every year people will take them. It was suppose to be "one vaccine" and you are completely protected. Now it's on to "annually" or you are not "fully protected".

Big pharma companies made "Covid-19" a yearly revenue source and people are dumb enough now to take it every year. I won't look it up the number of "covid strains" or what number of vaccine/booster its on its sort of like Call of Duty: 25. Same game same result. Except it's the Covid vaccine. Same vaccine same result. People will be injured by it and in higher numbers then any other vaccine known to man(See VAERS for the DATA).

You pretending like Trump's "Warpspeed" vaccine was legitimate is hilarious. You hate Trump but you took a jab that wasn't properly tested. You think that makes you smart. NO LONG TERM STUDIES. You are a lab rat you just refuse to admit it. Sorry bud.

You also can't see causal reality either. If you died from the vaccine between 2021-2022 it was labeled that Covid killed you even though there's hundreds of potential co-morbidities(the vaccine itself included).

Also never forget that a large percentage of people like myself didn't get vaccinated and nothing happened to me. My own mother who as I mentioned is a nurse and was forced to take the Pfizer to keep her job is still experiencing health problems and it's the sole reason she isn't getting the Covid vaccine and flu shot(which she used to take yearly).

Imagine the VAERS showing absurd "adverse reactions to the vaccine by number" and then you deny that people were harmed/killed by it.

I'm still waiting for all of you in disagreement with me to show me some facts because I showed SOME you showed NONE. Some of my "opinions" are FACTS I got directly from government websites. It's not some conspiracy I made up in my head though all of you who took the vaccine are naturally "offended by everything I say because most of it is TRUE and based in REALITY".
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