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Jan 19 2021 02:33pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 19 2021 02:26pm)
I dont think that this base actually hates muslims, in the sense that they actively wish them harm - they just dont see a place for islam in America.
Similarly, Trump actually got along quite well with MBS of Saudi-Arabia and also other Middle Eastern leaders.

Anyway, I disagree with your notion that the fabled anti-China alliance could or should have been forged on humanitarian grounds. Taking on a behemoth like China will require a lot of patience and sacrifice. The truth, imho, is that almost no Western society really cares that much about the treatment of minorities at the other end of the world that they would be willing to sacrifice hundreds of billions for it. Imho, the anti-China alliance must be framed as a defense of our freedom, our wealth and our democracy from Chinese encroachment. The Chinese being a threat to someone else (Uighurs/Taiwan/its own opposition) will never be as motivating and close the ranks as effectively as them being a threat to us.


his base would laugh as the middle east was turned to glass. you severely overvalue their morals.
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Jan 19 2021 05:49pm
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his base would laugh as the middle east was turned to glass. you severely overvalue their morals.


I dont think many people would miss Iran and Palestine.
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Jan 19 2021 09:45pm
Not bad

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Jan 19 2021 09:56pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 19 2021 12:26pm)
I dont think that this base actually hates muslims, in the sense that they actively wish them harm - they just dont see a place for islam in America.
Similarly, Trump actually got along quite well with MBS of Saudi-Arabia and also other Middle Eastern leaders.

Anyway, I disagree with your notion that the fabled anti-China alliance could or should have been forged on humanitarian grounds. Taking on a behemoth like China will require a lot of patience and sacrifice. The truth, imho, is that almost no Western society really cares that much about the treatment of minorities at the other end of the world that they would be willing to sacrifice hundreds of billions for it. Imho, the anti-China alliance must be framed as a defense of our freedom, our wealth and our democracy from Chinese encroachment. The Chinese being a threat to someone else (Uighurs/Taiwan/its own opposition) will never be as motivating and close the ranks as effectively as them being a threat to us.


no his base would love for all people of Islamic faith to die no question.
They think Biden is a communist mole sent to take over the US.
an actual brown skin believing in another God?
Come on??!!!
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Jan 19 2021 10:17pm
Quote (IceMage @ Jan 19 2021 02:24pm)
I think it shows how America alone pursuing a policy without our allies is fruitless and counter-productive. A smart populist would bring allies together in order to enact consequences on China. That's not in Trump's DNA... he has to pursue an endless list of grievances with our allies while trying to be tough on China.

I suppose right-wing populists can claim, like the socialists do, that "true" populism hasn't been tried yet. But I don't recall them objecting to Trump's moves in the moment.


It shows rather that Trump is transactional and not strategic. He does not care about America's overarching strategic interests insofar as how they intersect with China and the Pacific, he wants to rectify their malfeasance on trade, which is what he campaigned on.

Not a great approach, and if he were a smarter man he would have continued on with the TPP and explained it away as negotiation, but it was certainly a move in the right direction after decades of Republicans and Democrats chasing dollars in China with the pretense that China was going to "come around", stop committing genocide, give up its regional ambitions, and adopt Western values. It's sort of insulting to the Chinese; they have an ancient civilization and there's a hubris that goes along with that.
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Jan 24 2021 08:08am
In this episode of "Trumpism means the craziness, not the populism"...

https://twitter.com/TexasGOP/status/1353112047970443266

Texas Republican Party including the QAnon slogan "we are the storm" in their message to follow them on the white supremacist Twitter, Gab.

https://twitter.com/yvonnewingett/status/1353130157637214209

Arizona GOP censures Jeff Flake, Cindy McCain, and Doug Ducey(GOP governor). 4 years ago Jeff Flake and John McCain were Arizona's senators... now those seats are held by Democrats. The chairwoman of Arizona's GOP got re-elected, because the Republican party is no longer about winning elections, but rather fealty to Trump.

https://twitter.com/gophawaii/status/1353194880898453509

The Hawaii GOP says that people following Q were motivated by love of country. QAnon is a conspiracy theory that thinks thousands of Democrats and Republicans, basically anyone who was critical of Trump, will be rounded up and executed.


When I say the right-wing is rotten to the core, I don't know how any serious person can disagree.
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Jan 24 2021 08:16am
>Dishonestly boxes anyone on the right wing into the least charitable misrepresentation or interpretation he can come up with

>How can anyone disagree with me?

a real mystery there.
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Jan 26 2021 07:57am
Quote (IceMage @ Jan 24 2021 09:08am)
In this episode of "Trumpism means the craziness, not the populism"...

https://twitter.com/TexasGOP/status/1353112047970443266

Texas Republican Party including the QAnon slogan "we are the storm" in their message to follow them on the white supremacist Twitter, Gab.

https://twitter.com/yvonnewingett/status/1353130157637214209

Arizona GOP censures Jeff Flake, Cindy McCain, and Doug Ducey(GOP governor). 4 years ago Jeff Flake and John McCain were Arizona's senators... now those seats are held by Democrats. The chairwoman of Arizona's GOP got re-elected, because the Republican party is no longer about winning elections, but rather fealty to Trump.

https://twitter.com/gophawaii/status/1353194880898453509

The Hawaii GOP says that people following Q were motivated by love of country. QAnon is a conspiracy theory that thinks thousands of Democrats and Republicans, basically anyone who was critical of Trump, will be rounded up and executed.


When I say the right-wing is rotten to the core, I don't know how any serious person can disagree.


To continue...

https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/1353873669437665280

Tucker flipping the script on journalists concerned about QAnon... the real problem is government telling us what to think. I don't know why Tucker wants to affirm people who believe in a conspiracy theory that calls for the executions of thousands of Americans. He's an evil man for it.

https://twitter.com/Oregon_GOP/status/1351656484392759297

Oregon GOP calling the Jan. 6th insurrection a false flag operation, and comparing it to the Reichstag fire. Full blown Infowars QAnon territory here.

Does this not concern people of the right? How do you think we got here?

This post was edited by IceMage on Jan 26 2021 08:00am
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Jan 26 2021 08:01am
Quote (IceMage @ Jan 26 2021 07:57am)
To continue...

https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/1353873669437665280

Tucker flipping the script on journalists concerned about QAnon... the real problem is government telling us what to think. I don't know why Tucker wants to affirm people who believe in a conspiracy theory that calls for the executions of thousands of Americans. He's an evil man for it.

https://twitter.com/Oregon_GOP/status/1351656484392759297

Oregon GOP calling the Jan. 6th insurrection a false flag operation, and compares it to the Reichstag fire. Full blown Infowars QAnon territory here.

Does this not concern people of the right? How do you think we got here?


it concerns me a lot. tucker is peddling Fent laced product, knowing it grabs people better, but isnt telling them its enhanced bullshit that might get them killed. but why does he care, he gets paid in the meantime and if they die out more will come.

Tucker has always been a piece of shit. even watching Shapiro play the "its not over for trump yet" game as court cases got tossed one after another was a bit sad. luckily he came around in the end, tucker, hannity, etc. they're all shitstains.
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Jan 26 2021 08:02am
Quote (IceMage @ Jan 26 2021 07:57am)
To continue...
https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/1353873669437665280
Tucker flipping the script on journalists concerned about QAnon... the real problem is government telling us what to think. I don't know why Tucker wants to affirm people who believe in a conspiracy theory that calls for the executions of thousands of Americans. He's an evil man for it.
https://twitter.com/Oregon_GOP/status/1351656484392759297
Oregon GOP calling the Jan. 6th insurrection a false flag operation, and comparing it to the Reichstag fire. Full blown Infowars QAnon territory here.
Does this not concern people of the right? How do you think we got here?


Tucker is shit a hiring writers. His writers have admitted to putting in white supremacist dog whistles for him to say on air. Not surprising that his writing staff is also full of Qanon supporters.
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