what's the distinction between those when it comes to a belief about whether or not the 1%ers are getting the same treatment as the rest of us?



an example where poor people were given things that weren't given to privileged people would serve to reinforce the belief that they could be given different things in the future.

There are multiple vaccines out there and might be more by the time doses start seeing commoners a few months from now. If Fauci gets vacc'd on camera this week, it's almost surely true that millions of americans will be offered the opportunity to take a different vacc a few months from now.

This post was edited by Kayeto on Dec 19 2020 08:03pm

I feel like you guys are trying to live in some rational world that doesn't exist. As if the American people will understand that their representatives aren't getting the vaccine right now because they don't need it most.

We live in a nation filled with people who don't accept science. They are conspiratorial about it. Politicians taking the vaccine will combat that notion, especially those who appeal to the nuts, like Trump. This is far more influential than healthcare workers.

I mean you think these top comments are a coincidence:


1. We know vaccine is safe. We are wondering, why you & other elected people cut in line before 1st responders? Don't say continuity of government because that's not true.
Enjoy your run while millions of people who need it most have no idea when vaccine will be available to them.


2 WHAT?! Why you did you get one before 1st responders?!
My GOD!
Unfortunately, your actions Speaks volumes.


3 I have two boys with type one diabetes. How did you get in line to get the vaccine before them??





I did no cherry picking, Just picked the top 3


America doesn’t care what congress does. America as a whole has a distrust and hate for congress. The 500 vaccinations that they would receive would easily be taken by high risk patients. That’s simply just 500 less vaccinations available to them. The argument that they are influencers and should be given preferential treatment for this reason, well that’s just incredibly naive. The argument that influencers should be up the line might have Merritt, but that these individuals in congress being meaningful influencers is erroneous

Months from now nobody will remember which congress members did or didn’t get it. They will just remember they cut in line. Simple as that tbh. Oprah going on tv saying the only reason I’m getting this ahead of y’all is to convince u black folks - now that is a more reasonable argument, and even then would have more impact down the line when the option is available to more.

This post was edited by Bazi on Dec 19 2020 08:25pm

Yeah man I hear what you’re saying, truly. My post is There is nobody that needs convincing right now, who wants it. And those that need convincing will not be convinced with these actions now, as opposed to later. In fact I think you can make the argument that all of congress getting it when made immediately available to all would be more powerful of a statement anyway

There are lines of people wanting to take this and floods of daily calls at dr offices.

Your 23 year old nurse who can’t afford a hospitalization, your 80 year old grandma ... x500

The time for convincing will come, months from now. These actions right now are simultaneously meaningless from a public health standpoint (influencer argument) and selfish. It would be more powerful when the public has the actual option of receiving the vaccination.

This post was edited by Bazi on Dec 19 2020 08:43pm

To your point I’ve seen about 10 memes claiming Pelosi didn’t get the vaccine. Turns out just the orange retractable cap. Yes every trumper is 80% fact deniers. Or they wouldn’t support him. It’s that simple

This post was edited by theCrossbones on Dec 19 2020 08:26pm

Every pro-vaccine politician and Bill Gates should receive the vaccine first. Publicly. Not even joking. If they all take it, then take the second dose, publicly, administered by physicians who aren't going to stick them with empty syringes or saline, then you may build up some trust.

Bill Gates is the person who confuses me the most. He's dropped a billion fucking dollars into the development of the vaccine. He's been a primary proponent of global vaccination. He's 70 years old, part of the high at risk group, and frankly, I'm concerned for his health. He has pushed himself into the forefront of societal health. If he's right, then we NEED him to survive this. Vaccinate him first, yes?

Or, is it possible, the reason that the political and corporate class who're saying, "Nah, it'll be fine, give it to these other folks first!" are signaling what they actually believe?

any bets he has already taken it? that would be my guess.
These 1%'s do whatever they want

I doubt it. He's on public record (I can provide video if you need) insisting he will "wait his turn". The problem I (and many others) have with this is that he should be at the forefront. I spoke plainly. If he already took it, tell us! That'll engender trust. All it appears right now is that he's avoiding the... cure... he's attempting to push on the plebs.

I'm being honest, Gates is NOT a health official. Gates has NO medical education. Gates is NOT who you should trust. BUT, if he trusts the agenda he's been funding, and wants to engender the same trust he has in it, he should be first in line. Done.

Ok.. but
1. He may have still already taken it.
2. He may want to appear "not so greedy" IE Pence etc.. denying forever being before frontline workers.. bad look man.
3. I don't trust his medical opinion per se, but he pays some smart ass people to do shit for him. (yes he wants to make money) the best managers can "manage" anything car companies, vaccine research, oil companies, whatever doesn't matter they know how to get results. Right now Gates has a large Co. trying to reinvent the modern battery, not talking AA's lol and it stock is going up like crazy.
4. Why is the default on this guy always negative. guy has donated so much to charity and works on all kinds of shit that he doesn't really need to.. I worked on the building their(Wife) foundation is in. The worker treatment etc. was top notch.
But yes they are supreme capitalist money makers most of the time. Damn good at it too.

This post was edited by theCrossbones on Dec 20 2020 08:12am

On a far more serious note:
https://www.politico.eu/article/netherlands-flight-travel-ban-uk-coronavirus-england-airports/