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Quote (Landmine @ Nov 22 2016 10:09pm)
Why are you racist? That's obviously the real question here. When someone targets a group as a whole instead of basing it on an individual they destroy their own integrity. When someone states they know what's best for a group of people, by stating supremacy to that group of people they destroy their integrity. So it's time you admit that you're a bigot and a racist hiding in sheeps clothing once and for all.



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Quote (Landmine @ 22 Nov 2016 23:42)
You can always tell when someone doesn't have a point, because they move to attack those that question their views. Sadly I must re clarify again... not only are you a hypocrite, sexist, bigot that lacks reading comprehension, but also you're very arrogant. I simply asked the same of you as you did him, but you attacked him for not answering the question as you did not answer mine.


Oh shit, I honestly missed your original post. This post made me search in the page to figure it out. Completely my bad then, I just figured you were trying to make some vague point.

Quote (Landmine @ 22 Nov 2016 21:09)
Why are you racist? That's obviously the real question here. When someone targets a group as a whole instead of basing it on an individual they destroy their own integrity. When someone states they know what's best for a group of people, by stating supremacy to that group of people they destroy their integrity. So it's time you admit that you're a bigot and a racist hiding in sheeps clothing once and for all.


Discussing demographic groups without actually saying anything about how any specific person has to fit within your preconceptions isn't racist, tho. Saying that black people have been intentionally held back through both cultural and legal choices in the United States is simply a fact. It's no more racist than saying that black people are more likely to become career criminals than white people. That's just something that the numbers bear out.

That said, I definitely wouldn't say that I think that I know what's best for any particular group at all, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. I think that it'd be great for us to try to figure out a way to reverse obvious ways in which we've intentionally and accidentally held back the black community, but I think that's a pretty big cry from thinking that I know best for them.
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Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Nov 23 2016 12:47am)
Oh shit, I honestly missed your original post. This post made me search in the page to figure it out. Completely my bad then, I just figured you were trying to make some vague point.



Discussing demographic groups without actually saying anything about how any specific person has to fit within your preconceptions isn't racist, tho. Saying that black people have been intentionally held back through both cultural and legal choices in the United States is simply a fact. It's no more racist than saying that black people are more likely to become career criminals than white people. That's just something that the numbers bear out.

That said, I definitely wouldn't say that I think that I know what's best for any particular group at all, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. I think that it'd be great for us to try to figure out a way to reverse obvious ways in which we've intentionally and accidentally held back the black community, but I think that's a pretty big cry from thinking that I know best for them.



As for the first part I don't disagree with you're statement, but when you assume that you know what's in their best interest it becomes skeptical. As stated here:
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I do have to agree that it's pretty ridiculous to assume that everyone in a certain demographic should follow the trend lines and vote along with 'their people,' without a doubt. Pretty dumb and pretty racist. Everyone can vote against their interests, not just rednecks. :
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As for the first part I don't disagree with you're statement, but when you assume that you know what's in their best interest it becomes skeptical. As stated here:


Like I said right after that, I say the exact same thing about white people who are working class. Anyone who isn't in or near the 1% was voting against their own economic interests with Trump.

I was also trying to joke, but I can see how it'd fall flat, given my reputation and all. :P
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I get that too. White socialists are saying it's class stupid and black dudes are like check your privilege, you're not under attack like we are.

Dealing exclusively with class doesn't address white supremacy but identity politics just made it worse and white identity politics mixed with the power they hold over minorities has More than a few people worried.

Its only crime if you don't own the police and military. Nixon was right when he said whatever the government does is legal by definition. Because law is a tool of the powerful.

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Not playing putins games and defining the rules of the interaction. That's pretty alpha.
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oh, checkers aren't allowed on a 6x7 square board?
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Not playing putins games and defining the rules of the interaction. That's pretty alpha.




...checkmate
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