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Dec 26 2023 09:45pm
Quote (zorzin @ 26 Dec 2023 21:03)
1) it's ironic that before 10/7 Israel was almost at a breaking point and everyone wanted bibi out. Now he's their G-d Emperor. 9/11 gave uncle sam the ability to control the ME oil and setup military bases, funny how that works.

2) agreed.

3) Thank you, martyrdom is not for the faint of heart.

4) not sleeper cells my friend, americanized muslims. If we can't protect our souther border and put up with the summer of love, what makes you think that we will stop this type of civil disobedience?

5) agreed

6) Our strategic oil reserves are depleted and restarting fracking/drilling takes months with huge capital investment. What is America now 20millionbarrelsperday? How much of that do we get from the ME? The last thing America needs is what's happening in Gaza.

7) I believe that ww3 was inevitable for religious reasons but your point remains correct

8) I absolutely agree with you that there is an absolute ton of backdoor dealings behind the scenes. I may trash the iof but mossad is the foremost spy organization in the world bar none, however I will never subscribe to the notion that one man, whoever that may be, cannot make a difference.


Martyrdom doesn't exist anymore. The original martyrs were actual real martyrs everyone since has done it for their own "ego" or some "nefarious reason". I was raised Catholic and I was never under the impression I should sacrifice the one life God gave me in some grandiose delusion. Jesus dying on the cross whether real or symbolic represents that "martyrdom" your speaking of. He did it for the ONLY reason. To carry the karmic debt of every human being going forward. To say don't worry about those sins your going to make in this world. I'll bear that burden until the end. This is the same concept discussed by Sidhartha Guatama(Buddha) and why you see the current 14th Dali Llama confronting the one human condition that would never end. Suffering. Buddha said I'll reincarnate again and again until suffering ceases to exist. It's never going to stop "suffering" but it shows modest people like me and you we can at least "try" in this life. Just don't expect to succeed.

I live in the suburbs of Chicago and I have two Americanized Muslim families on my street who I've never had a problem with and they are nice people. I don't think if some Imam says the time has come to eviscerate the infidels that every "Americanized Muslim" is going to go full Jihadi Joe on all of us but you are right there will be some I'm sure of that.

Do you really think that any country is honest about how much "oil" they have left? or how much "gold" they have stashed? I don't. I also know that I can build a shelter, obtain food and water without my governments help.

I'm inclined to believe that the US government has sucked more oil out of the Middle East then anyone can imagine and this was to level the playing field so that when modern society does collapse we will have "just enough" when most countries are "bone dry" and "100 percent dependent" on foreign oil.

When Gandhi said "Be the change you want to see in the world" he actually met change the way you look at the world perceptually so that your not wasting your life in fruitless endeavors. If you change the way you view existence and reality you are no longer "bound" in the way most religious people are. Let go of the idea that you have control. You don't. You can only change how you see things and everything will continue to change around you regardless. It's sort of like Bruce Lee's "become like water". Don't become confined by your own beliefs. Be spontaneous and enjoy life so that contempt cannot build in your heart.

Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 26 Dec 2023 21:14)
then go and die alongside your valiant hamas brothers lmao :rofl:

the doom and gloom shit in this topic is out of control


No offense bro but we really are on the cusp of WW3 and yes the planet is in terrible shape. It's easy to lie to yourself and pretend the party goes on forever and every year will be just like the last but if you've been paying attention to even the things going on around you it's easy to see how "out of wack" the biosphere is. I can give hundreds of examples that should scare the shit out of anyone but "ignorance is bliss". When your crops won't grow. When all the insects are dead. When the droughts and flooding gets worse. When the wildfires rage in places they've never raged even through WINTER. These are the things through your own senses that you should be aware of but if you tell the average person that if "bees die" the world is in total free fall they'll just blow it off because it's easier to live in a delusion then to admit your a fool. That's cowardice. I have 3 nieces and a nephew that I want to have the same opportunities and experiences I did on this planet and guess what they won't and that's a bitter pill to swallow.

This post was edited by SwamiVivekananda on Dec 26 2023 09:46pm
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Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ 27 Dec 2023 06:45)
Martyrdom doesn't exist anymore. The original martyrs were actual real martyrs everyone since has done it for their own "ego" or some "nefarious reason". I was raised Catholic and I was never under the impression I should sacrifice the one life God gave me in some grandiose delusion. Jesus dying on the cross whether real or symbolic represents that "martyrdom" your speaking of. He did it for the ONLY reason. To carry the karmic debt of every human being going forward. To say don't worry about those sins your going to make in this world. I'll bear that burden until the end. This is the same concept discussed by Sidhartha Guatama(Buddha) and why you see the current 14th Dali Llama confronting the one human condition that would never end. Suffering. Buddha said I'll reincarnate again and again until suffering ceases to exist. It's never going to stop "suffering" but it shows modest people like me and you we can at least "try" in this life. Just don't expect to succeed.

I live in the suburbs of Chicago and I have two Americanized Muslim families on my street who I've never had a problem with and they are nice people. I don't think if some Imam says the time has come to eviscerate the infidels that every "Americanized Muslim" is going to go full Jihadi Joe on all of us but you are right there will be some I'm sure of that.

Do you really think that any country is honest about how much "oil" they have left? or how much "gold" they have stashed? I don't. I also know that I can build a shelter, obtain food and water without my governments help.

I'm inclined to believe that the US government has sucked more oil out of the Middle East then anyone can imagine and this was to level the playing field so that when modern society does collapse we will have "just enough" when most countries are "bone dry" and "100 percent dependent" on foreign oil.

When Gandhi said "Be the change you want to see in the world" he actually met change the way you look at the world perceptually so that your not wasting your life in fruitless endeavors. If you change the way you view existence and reality you are no longer "bound" in the way most religious people are. Let go of the idea that you have control. You don't. You can only change how you see things and everything will continue to change around you regardless. It's sort of like Bruce Lee's "become like water". Don't become confined by your own beliefs. Be spontaneous and enjoy life so that contempt cannot build in your heart.



No offense bro but we really are on the cusp of WW3 and yes the planet is in terrible shape. It's easy to lie to yourself and pretend the party goes on forever and every year will be just like the last but if you've been paying attention to even the things going on around you it's easy to see how "out of wack" the biosphere is. I can give hundreds of examples that should scare the shit out of anyone but "ignorance is bliss". When your crops won't grow. When all the insects are dead. When the droughts and flooding gets worse. When the wildfires rage in places they've never raged even through WINTER. These are the things through your own senses that you should be aware of but if you tell the average person that if "bees die" the world is in total free fall they'll just blow it off because it's easier to live in a delusion then to admit your a fool. That's cowardice. I have 3 nieces and a nephew that I want to have the same opportunities and experiences I did on this planet and guess what they won't and that's a bitter pill to swallow.


*grumbles* In our times martyrs were true unlike today's soy ones
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Dec 27 2023 07:42am
Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ Dec 27 2023 04:45am)
Martyrdom doesn't exist anymore. The original martyrs were actual real martyrs everyone since has done it for their own "ego" or some "nefarious reason". I was raised Catholic and I was never under the impression I should sacrifice the one life God gave me in some grandiose delusion. Jesus dying on the cross whether real or symbolic represents that "martyrdom" your speaking of. He did it for the ONLY reason. To carry the karmic debt of every human being going forward. To say don't worry about those sins your going to make in this world. I'll bear that burden until the end. This is the same concept discussed by Sidhartha Guatama(Buddha) and why you see the current 14th Dali Llama confronting the one human condition that would never end. Suffering. Buddha said I'll reincarnate again and again until suffering ceases to exist. It's never going to stop "suffering" but it shows modest people like me and you we can at least "try" in this life. Just don't expect to succeed.

I live in the suburbs of Chicago and I have two Americanized Muslim families on my street who I've never had a problem with and they are nice people. I don't think if some Imam says the time has come to eviscerate the infidels that every "Americanized Muslim" is going to go full Jihadi Joe on all of us but you are right there will be some I'm sure of that.

Do you really think that any country is honest about how much "oil" they have left? or how much "gold" they have stashed? I don't. I also know that I can build a shelter, obtain food and water without my governments help.

I'm inclined to believe that the US government has sucked more oil out of the Middle East then anyone can imagine and this was to level the playing field so that when modern society does collapse we will have "just enough" when most countries are "bone dry" and "100 percent dependent" on foreign oil.

When Gandhi said "Be the change you want to see in the world" he actually met change the way you look at the world perceptually so that your not wasting your life in fruitless endeavors. If you change the way you view existence and reality you are no longer "bound" in the way most religious people are. Let go of the idea that you have control. You don't. You can only change how you see things and everything will continue to change around you regardless. It's sort of like Bruce Lee's "become like water". Don't become confined by your own beliefs. Be spontaneous and enjoy life so that contempt cannot build in your heart.



No offense bro but we really are on the cusp of WW3 and yes the planet is in terrible shape. It's easy to lie to yourself and pretend the party goes on forever and every year will be just like the last but if you've been paying attention to even the things going on around you it's easy to see how "out of wack" the biosphere is. I can give hundreds of examples that should scare the shit out of anyone but "ignorance is bliss". When your crops won't grow. When all the insects are dead. When the droughts and flooding gets worse. When the wildfires rage in places they've never raged even through WINTER. These are the things through your own senses that you should be aware of but if you tell the average person that if "bees die" the world is in total free fall they'll just blow it off because it's easier to live in a delusion then to admit your a fool. That's cowardice. I have 3 nieces and a nephew that I want to have the same opportunities and experiences I did on this planet and guess what they won't and that's a bitter pill to swallow.


nobody is triggering WW3 over an insignificant shithole like gaza or fucking ukraine

the world is consistently becoming better and safer and all doomsday predictions from the past NEVER happened

not even remotely

there are legit problems and we will figure them out
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Dec 27 2023 08:20am
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Dec 26 2023 10:14pm)
then go and die alongside your valiant hamas brothers lmao :rofl:

the doom and gloom shit in this topic is out of control


Inshallah

Let met break down the doom and gloom for you and then you can tell me whether or not it's warranted:

day 82 of trying to neutralize 5 mile strip of land
multiple war crimes pending
US support cuts looming
all import shipments in the Red sea halted for 3rd week straight
anti semitism levels increasing worldwide
rockets still being fired into the mainland (nahal oz)
Islamic Resistance in Iraq still firing at US bases (Al-Shaddadi)
Hezbollah still launching rockets with impunity in the north
Saudi Arabia backing out of prosperity guardian
Iran threatening the closing of the Mediterranean
Zero hostages rescued
Zero meaningful tunnels captured
Assassinations happening on Israeli soil
Al qassam still blowing up merkavas on the daily
Major General of the Israeli Reserve Yitzhak Brik stating that beating hamas in untenable
Iof retreating from beit hanoun

Do you see this conflict escalating? Remember that typically Iran waits 3 days for mourning before attacking, they want retribution for the killing of their commander.
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Dec 27 2023 09:04am
Quote (zorzin @ Dec 27 2023 03:20pm)
Inshallah

Let met break down the doom and gloom for you and then you can tell me whether or not it's warranted:

day 82 of trying to neutralize 5 mile strip of land
multiple war crimes pending
US support cuts looming
all import shipments in the Red sea halted for 3rd week straight
anti semitism levels increasing worldwide
rockets still being fired into the mainland (nahal oz)
Islamic Resistance in Iraq still firing at US bases (Al-Shaddadi)
Hezbollah still launching rockets with impunity in the north
Saudi Arabia backing out of prosperity guardian
Iran threatening the closing of the Mediterranean
Zero hostages rescued
Zero meaningful tunnels captured
Assassinations happening on Israeli soil
Al qassam still blowing up merkavas on the daily
Major General of the Israeli Reserve Yitzhak Brik stating that beating hamas in untenable
Iof retreating from beit hanoun

Do you see this conflict escalating? Remember that typically Iran waits 3 days for mourning before attacking, they want retribution for the killing of their commander.


and its a tiny conflict that 90%+ of the world does not care about, not even the whole muslim world does

applauding from a thousand miles away does not count

the red sea thing will be sorted out soon, because its the only important thing here

i suggest you travel a bit, you will realise that the western news shit is actually a small bubble very few people care about

ask the argentinian parrilla steak seller, the thai coconut seller or the turkish barber, if they care about a tiny shithole at war

nobody cares about trash gaza
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Dec 27 2023 10:31am
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Dec 27 2023 10:04am)

the red sea thing will be sorted out soon, because its the only important thing here

nobody cares about trash gaza


If you look into the mirror and repeat this line three (3) times it becomes true.

Meanwhile hezbollah just launched between 10-30 rockets at Kiryat Shmona and its reported that the iron dome only shot down 30% of them. The constant missle barrage from the north is a much more important national security threat than the Red sea.

Whether you like it or not, this has become a global issue, once Europeans start seeing those gas prices skyrocket, then Israel will have even more pressure to allow aid to gaza which would be considered an Ansarallah victory.
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Dec 27 2023 11:39am
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 27 Dec 2023 07:42)
nobody is triggering WW3 over an insignificant shithole like gaza or fucking ukraine

the world is consistently becoming better and safer and all doomsday predictions from the past NEVER happened

not even remotely

there are legit problems and we will figure them out


I am not saying it will start over Gaza or Ukraine but both of those could easily be a catalyst. As we've seen so far in both "Wars" they seemingly die down for a brief reprieve and then "gasoline is poured on" and suddenly it's back to the "War" is still "Raging"!

Doomsday predictions have nothing to do with the "homeostasis" that's been interrupted by anthropogenic changes on this planet and it's not slowing down.

When you say "their are legit problems we will figure out" that's actually a scapegoat by people and society to believe that "someone somewhere smarter then the rest of us" will "figure all this out".

Since the industrial revolution onward we have destroyed the biosphere in the "geologic blink of an eye". In less then 200 years we've managed to brink the entire planet to it's "tipping point".

There are so many people who live in "la-la land" and I'm not saying you are one of them but the "biggest militaries on Earth" are not actively "taking land" because they just want to "flex". They are doing it because all these intelligences are aware of something the public is not.

Here are a few things I'll mention that should raise an eyebrow.

1) 90% of insect populations are gone. You could probably think back 20 years ago when there were far more insects around and that's terrible for the biosphere.

2) Fish populations in lakes, oceans, rivers are in total free fall and a majority of the world's diet has some type of "aquatic life".

3) Wildfires burning more acres every year and burning in places like Siberia where there were previously NONE.

4) It's so warm in the Artic that right now Polar bears that would be in "hibernation" are walking around aimlessly because their "instincts" are basically scrambled.

5) Oceans are overheating and most coral reefs are either completely dead or struggling to survive.

6) "Renewable" or "Green" energy is a total farce and can never replace fossil fuels as our population continues to rise "exponentially".

7) Nuclear disasters like Fukushima and Chernobyl continue to "seep" into everything and the 100's of other "nuclear power plants" which are mostly by bodies of water(for cooling reasons) will/can go into meltdown and even a natural disaster like a tsunami/earthquake can literally destroy enough of them to where we'd be basically be in Chernobyl x 100. A powerful enough solar fare could do this too and we have no known technology to "combat" that.

8) Methane literally exploding out of the ground and at the bottom of ocean floors and rising into the atmosphere to then be trapped(Look up Methane craters). It will easily create what's termed as "Venus Syndrome" when dense gases have nowhere to go and literally cover our upper atmosphere. This is not the same as "carbon dioxide" which people like Al' Gore and John Kerry say is the "biggest" problem.

This list goes on and on those are just a few I could think of off the top of my head. Synergistic toxicity is something already soaking us all in "goop". A lot of these things are what's known as a "feedback loop" which is a lot like dominoes. Once one thing fails it causes a cascading event which in turn triggers other things. "Abrupt climate collapse" is a combination of natural occurrences are planet goes through coupled with anthropogenic things we've done. It's much worse then our governments care to convey and make us aware of. Imagine they told us how bad things really were there would be total panic and chaos so they'll wait until the last possible moment before saying, "It's really really bad and we didn't know". When in reality they know damn well and all countries and wealthy individuals have prepared for this as if it's happening now so just "going about your life and pretending your god given senses aren't trying to warn you is foolish. It's much easier to just believe "nothing is wrong" then to try and come up with solution to problems we currenly have no known technology to solve.

This post was edited by SwamiVivekananda on Dec 27 2023 11:40am
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Dec 27 2023 12:35pm
Quote (zorzin @ 27 Dec 2023 18:31)
If you look into the mirror and repeat this line three (3) times it becomes true.

Meanwhile hezbollah just launched between 10-30 rockets at Kiryat Shmona and its reported that the iron dome only shot down 30% of them. The constant missle barrage from the north is a much more important national security threat than the Red sea.

Whether you like it or not, this has become a global issue, once Europeans start seeing those gas prices skyrocket, then Israel will have even more pressure to allow aid to gaza which would be considered an Ansarallah victory.


The only reason you dont see dead Houti’s is because uncle sam is holding Israel.
Once they give the green light its done
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Dec 27 2023 12:45pm
Quote (Many_Names @ Dec 27 2023 10:35am)
The only reason you dont see dead Houti’s is because uncle sam is holding Israel.
Once they give the green light its done


sure buddy
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