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Jan 7 2021 10:16am
Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 7 2021 07:06am)
this is a very shortsighted view of the situation.

people literally calling for civil war, and a senate open session is being infiltrated. the idea that these people couldnt possible be carrying bombs or god knows what under their clothes is silly. this isnt just some drunk asshole in board shorts, flip flops, and no shirt. this is an active session of congress.

her dying is unfortunate, she should have lived to be charged.



They already found pipe bombs. These people are terrorists.
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Jan 7 2021 10:13am)
It's a public building. While there may be "rules" and "guidelines" to that public building, there's no law that the public cannot enter the building they own. The argument regarding fencing at most makes it a misdemeanor trespass, assuming fencing and notification of closure was put up well in advance.

Which again, leads to nothing more than an arrest to remove the person from the property, a prompt release, and a potential fine. It's not some "lock them up" scenario unless some other major crime has been committed.


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The Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011, also known as H.R. 347, Pub.L. 112–98 (text) (pdf), is a federal law in the United States allowing the Secret Service extra jurisdiction to make arrests and suppress protests in cases of trespass on restricted locations and intentional disruption of government functions.

H.R. 347 is a revision to section 1752 of title 18 US code.[1] Introduced by representative Thomas Rooney (FL-16), it makes punishable by up to 10 years' jail time or fine any person who does "or conspires to" enter any "restricted building or grounds" or within certain "proximity" without lawful authority to do so, attempting to disrupt the orderly conduct of Government business.

It defines restricted building or grounds as the "(A) of the White House or its grounds, or the Vice President's official residence or its grounds; (B) of a building or grounds where the President or other person protected by the Secret Service is or will be temporarily visiting; or (C) of a building or grounds so restricted in conjunction with an event designated as a special event of national significance."

The law passed Congress and was signed by President Barack Obama on March 8, 2012


this is the most recent ADDITION to the legal code on restricted federal buildings. this isnt hte only law, its a step up on the jurisdiction the secret service has, in addition to what they and local DC police already had.

omg, imagine being so stupid u think u can just walk into any govt building because u pay taxes......
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 7 Jan 2021 08:15)
Trump being crowned God Emperor of the Universe, and Soros/Gates/Hillary being publicly crucified on the roof of the Capitol, with their green lizard blood dropping the Capitol steps.


Sounds horrific. Warn me if they make a movie, so I can avoid watching it. :o

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this is the most recent ADDITION to the legal code on restricted federal buildings. this isnt hte only law, its a step up on the jurisdiction the secret service has, in addition to what they and local DC police already had.

omg, imagine being so stupid u think u can just walk into any govt building because u pay taxes......


I notice you failed to post anything related to penalty. Why? Because the Constitutionality of that law is suspect. If a case goes before the Supreme Court, it's likely the law will be overturned.

A public building is owned by the public. Not by politicians. I don't know how that confuses you. People who have "trespassed" even at the White House get arrested, yes. Most are released without charge. Occasionally they're charged with a misdemeanor and fined.

Nothing in what you've posted says anything different than what I've said. You're merely attempting to justify special rules put into play by authoritarians to protect authoritarians. :)

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Jan 7 2021 10:22am
Quote (Santara @ Jan 7 2021 09:45am)

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I'm watching "leftists" transform in real time into apologists for police murder.

Where’s all the calls for “he didn’t have to shoot her! Should’ve used a taser or bean bags!
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Jan 7 2021 10:24am
Quote (Santara @ Jan 7 2021 09:59am)
FOH rand.

Well, you know me. If a cop is pulling a trigger, they already don't get the benefit of the doubt. Cop can't say "I feared for my life" when he and the rest of them could easily overpower her when she was climbing through.


Yeah, generally I'm in the same boat, but if one person gets through then others are going to start getting through and it's not just going to be them restraining one person.

My general rule is for the police to de-escalate and use minimal force, but storming the capitol building is a situation where general rules don't really work
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Jan 7 2021 10:25am
Quote (IgoSoHard @ Jan 7 2021 07:22am)
Where’s all the calls for “he didn’t have to shoot her! Should’ve used a taser or bean bags!



Resisting arrest doesn’t deserve death.
Committing terrorist acts does.

Pretty simple.

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Jan 7 2021 10:26am
Quote (BasedGoff @ Jan 7 2021 08:25am)
Resisting arrest doesn’t deserve death.
Committing terrorist acts does.

Pretty simple.


resisting arrest deseves death if you are a violent offender or rapist imo
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Quote (proccy @ Jan 7 2021 07:26am)
resisting arrest deseves death if you are a violent offender or rapist imo



No, it doesn’t. The rape makes him deserve death though.
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Quote (BasedGoff @ Jan 7 2021 10:25am)
Resisting arrest doesn’t deserve death.
Committing terrorist acts does.

Pretty simple.

It most a mostly peaceful protest

#NoJustice #NoPeace
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Jan 7 2021 10:27am
Quote (IgoSoHard @ Jan 7 2021 07:26am)
It most a mostly peaceful protest

#NoJustice #NoPeace



By definition (and their actions) these people are terrorists, no way around it.

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