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Dec 18 2020 09:17pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 19 Dec 2020 01:31)
We have a strong periodicity in our daily case and death numbers. Deaths always peak Wednesday through Friday; we're not averaging 800 deaths per day yet. And the patients who died yesterday are the ones who got infected in mid- to late-November, long before the hard(er) lockdown. These deaths were always coming, and there are many more "lined up" unfortunately. :(


Ger more than 800 today but since it has around 300 per million deaths only it will probably be like the first lockdown in france, ending with a flat very low number in ~3 weeks.
Thus it's more populated than France, weather is colder than march, and we have christmass & new year. Maybe a bit more.

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Ger more than 800 today but since it has around 300 per million deaths only it will probably be like the first lockdown in france, ending with a flat very low number in ~3 weeks.
Thus it's more populated than France, weather is colder than march, and we have christmass & new year. Maybe a bit more.


You're still averaging 13k cases per day, I wouldnt call that "very low numbers" tbh. Ok, compared to the 80k you had that one day in October, that's low, but not by normal standards. ;)
Also, your cases increased by 30% over the past 2 weeks, from 10k to 13k. At this rate, one month from now, you'd sit at 22k daily cases, which is probably the level where your government would tighten the restrictions again.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 19 Dec 2020 11:28)
You're still averaging 13k cases per day, I wouldnt call that "very low numbers" tbh. Ok, compared to the 80k you had that one day in October, that's low, but not by normal standards. ;)
Also, your cases increased by 30% over the past 2 weeks, from 10k to 13k. At this rate, one month from now, you'd sit at 22k daily cases, which is probably the level where your government would tighten the restrictions again.


No, sorry, i was talking about our first lockdown in march-april. Amount of cases in october can be missleading; the 80k we had was explained by intense testing.
So yeah we will see how it works for Ger (2nd line previous post)
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Dec 19 2020 05:31pm
https://twitter.com/kyrstensinema/status/1340349213398462465

This is what every government official should be doing.
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https://twitter.com/kyrstensinema/status/1340349213398462465

This is what every government official should be doing.


Good message, but why did she already receive the vaccine? I thought healthcare workers and the risk groups would get it first? She's neither; and unlike Trump/Pence/Pompeo/Biden/Harris/Blinken, she's not crucial for national security or a functioning government.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 19 2020 07:07pm)
Good message, but why did she already receive the vaccine? I thought healthcare workers and the risk groups would get it first? She's neither; and unlike Trump/Pence/Pompeo/Biden/Harris/Blinken, she's not crucial for national security or a functioning government.


I see people making the same argument... but it's not convincing in the slightest. I guess the official rationale is "continuity of government", but aren't high profile officials receiving the vaccine helpful to encourage others to get it? Routing the necessary number of vaccines to Congress and the White House is more important from a messaging standpoint.

We're a nation that elected Donald Trump. American citizens are nuts. Showing that the highest officials in government are getting the vaccine is more important than health officials or frontline workers.
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Quote (IceMage @ Dec 19 2020 05:31pm)
https://twitter.com/kyrstensinema/status/1340349213398462465

This is what every government official should be doing.


Don’t even know who the fk she is lol

Every politician in this category shouldn’t be getting ahead of high risk patients and personal

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 19 2020 06:07pm)
Good message, but why did she already receive the vaccine? I thought healthcare workers and the risk groups would get it first? She's neither; and unlike Trump/Pence/Pompeo/Biden/Harris/Blinken, she's not crucial for national security or a functioning government.



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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 19 2020 06:07pm)
Good message, but why did she already receive the vaccine? I thought healthcare workers and the risk groups would get it first? She's neither; and unlike Trump/Pence/Pompeo/Biden/Harris/Blinken, she's not crucial for national security or a functioning government.


Messaging is important. If two high risk people are convinced to take it then it was a positive.
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Messaging is important. If two high risk people are convinced to take it then it was a positive.


High risk people are already begging to take it

And low risk people won’t have the option for months to come anyway
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Quote (IceMage @ 20 Dec 2020 01:15)
I see people making the same argument... but it's not convincing in the slightest. I guess the official rationale is "continuity of government", but aren't high profile officials receiving the vaccine helpful to encourage others to get it? Routing the necessary number of vaccines to Congress and the White House is more important from a messaging standpoint.

We're a nation that elected Donald Trump. American citizens are nuts. Showing that the highest officials in government are getting the vaccine is more important than health officials or frontline workers.


I get the argument, I just dont think that it applies to a person like Sinema. You have to keep in mind that we (pard) are not a representative sample. How many of the nutty, shockingly uneducated ordinary Americans know who Kyrsten Sinema is? How many are following her twitter feed and will be reached by her message?

Biden is the big one. He's the most crucial person in the nation going forward, and he's from a risk group, so he definitely should get the shot very soon - and he's prominent enough. People know and care about him. His vaccination should definitely be televised and covered in the media. It's the one that will sway the most people.

Quote (Thor123422 @ 20 Dec 2020 01:31)
Messaging is important. If two high risk people are convinced to take it then it was a positive.


This argument would be valid if vaccines were already abundant and the only limiting factor were the participation rates. The opposite is true right now: vaccine supply will remain below demand for many months. At some point in summer, 50% of the country has already been vaccinated and herd immunity comes down to convincing the remaining 10-20% who are still on the fence - but by that point, no one will remember a clip from the twitter feed of a random senator from 6 months ago.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Dec 19 2020 07:21pm
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