Some people need treatment for PTSD. Other people don't. Trump didn't make any effort to stigmatize it, and has supported more services to treat it.
Plenty of soldiers go off to war, witness atrocities and even come under heavy fire and get wounded and go home and live happy productive lives without serious psychological problems.
Some don't.

Trump was making an argument in favor of expanding treatment for those who need the help, and you're trying to spin it as "trump coercing vets into killing themselves instead of seek treatment".



Theres nothing objectionable about what he said.

Thankfully Trump is capable understanding mainstream media, to not fall into the same sigmas. To not depict them as weak and inspire them to seek help when they have PTSD.



This post was edited by Knaapie on Oct 3 2016 06:12pm

objectionable because hes the (R) candidate



people are different and some deserve stronger taxpayer support for their sacrifice because theyre more negatively affected by it and no one talks about this. we slap them with a script and say good luck and they need more than that.

what a horrid candidate and message to promote.

I'm completely basing this off of what I've heard from veterans, but classifying combat vets who don't experience serious PTSD as "strong" and inevitably classifying combat vets who experience PTSD as "weak" is contrary to what they have experienced. Strong men who have experienced combat come home and have psychological issues because of it.

I know Skinned served but we don't really have any regulars who are combat vets(RiskofFire isn't here consistently), but I'm guessing they would agree.

Watching Morning Joe highlights, and this quote about Trump stuck out to me:

"It's as if Robby Mook calls him up every morning and says "here's what I need you to do today to reinforce the notion that you're not going to have the right temperament to be president." - Mark Halperin

It seems to me like he said that strong people don't need mental health services.

Strong men who get hit by a piece of shrapnel are carried away on stretchers because they're too weak to walk, and theres no shame in it. Trump didn't put any pejorative labels onto those suffering from PTSD, he simply stated some will be psychologically strong enough and some won't, thats a dry statement of fact. The problem is the coloring of stigmatization so often perpetuated by other veterans that they don't want to admit to any weakness. When their culture is one that refuses to show weakness, they repress their suffering and bring it back with them and self destruct. When other vets try to spin PTSD as something as if it were a chance condition or contagious virus or chemical in the air, so they don't need to admit weakness, what they're doing is perpetuating that same climate. Being too proud to admit weakness is the problem, trying to apply euphemisms to it only makes it worse. It discourages veterans from confronting their psychological issues, and leads many away from seeking treatment.

He said people who are strong enough to not need mental health services do not need mental health services.

Not he wasn't, you're projecting.

sorry for your lost trump supporters