I don't have enough fingers to count how many times israhell broke the international law.
unlike in the past where agreements were found for both sides to stop the war, marry my son vs that land or whatever, with israhell it's always been in their favor, regardless of what everyone else think about it.
golan heights a lot of gaz resources and thats what interests israhell you hypocrite.
israhell took profit of the chaos in syria to take golan in 2012 without the permission of anyone, as the typical jew behaviour
thats the reality you need to accept bro



zionism is exactly the same as islamic state, it's made by degenerates for degenerates
no state based on religion should ever exists

This post was edited by Melatonina on Jun 3 2021 02:19am

im not ignoring it at all, im simply weighing it as less important than perpetual war. for zionists the "holy land" aspect is a nonstarter, for me and countless dead it's not.



New Zealand.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jun 3 2021 06:06am

Fine, still doesnt address my other points: even for non-zionist Jews, Israel is still the Holy Land with great importance that they won't voluntarily give up; and the Jewish people in 1947 would never have accepted living in a state located right next to Germany.
Your "carve out territory from Germany"-idea just wasn't feasible.

we're mixing messages here.

1. my suggestion for the jews to be ceded land in Germany was not taking into account what they'd accept, it was purely fault based. WW2 and the Holocaust were Germany's fault. Why someone else should lose land because of Hitler's ambition is unfair.

2. The area is also a Holy Land to 2 other religions, yet we dont claim the land as our own.

it doesnt matter, history is what it was. but a compromise between Germany and Israel, likely in Europe, would have been better. Objectively. And i think a liberated mass of starved and abused people walking free from concentration camps would have accepted many places as long as they were safe and protected. As many fled to America, and not Israel even when it was made safe there. Many still remain here. Shit, give them Sicily for all i care to punish the Italians.

I do not deny that Israel broke international law and that's shitty. However, I have a hard time being outraged at Israel specifically given all the other shit in the world. People who harp on Israel while ignoring the rest of the world are no better than the white supremacists who are always pointing out the failings of "black culture, black crime, etc." Frankly, the Israel/Palestine conflict isn't special and we should care about it less given that there are more people dying elsewhere in the world and greater injustices.

I guess the question is, who would you rather have own the Golan Heights?
Syria: a despotic regime that murders THOUSANDS of it's own people, used chemical weapons, caused a refugee crisis in Europe, etc.
Israel: an imperfect democracy with a controversial history

One is clearly better than the other and more like us.



Why is creating a European state any better than creating an Israeli state? Europe was completely devastated and antisemitism was still rampant. The West was already carving up colonies and Mandatory Palestine was a British colony.

I don't think that's a better situation. Honestly I think it would have ended up largely undifferentiated from our current state of affairs. A massively anti-semitic Europe (It was absolutely not localized to Germany) surrounding a Jewish ethnostate. Sounds like a great way to reinforce "Jews steal our stuff" and continue hostilities.

I'm sure those Palestinians being invaded were more welcoming to solve Europe's problem. No hate for them, no anti-semi-invasionism.

There might have been rampant antisemitism in Germany. But I'm pretty sure that if it were to be done there, we wouldn't have had 70 years of slow genocide, post the first invasion.. We wouldn't have had to bomb them to keep them in line. So yes, that would have been better.

*Israel is forming an interesting gov atm.

This post was edited by Knoppie on Jun 3 2021 01:27pm

Israeli couscous recipe for this is not a good idea.
Palestinians of the country were going to California for this week of November and December 1st time home buyer programs for adults.

cuz white people are more civil due