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Jan 7 2021 10:03am
The girl who got shot made a bad decision in a highly risky situation. She didnt deserve to die but in all likelihood it could be a justified warning shot.
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Jan 7 2021 09:58am)
There you go, right off the bat. Answer me a question, friend medical school dropout:

How do you know the concerns are totally baseless? Where's the investigation? We have plenty of evidence of irregularities. The cases with said evidence were dismissed without hearing due to standing, laches, or injury. AKA, it's random evidence, neither proven false, nor validated proof. "No day in court." No investigation has been launched besides investigation by the foreign voting machine company itself.

You say "totally baseless". I'm going to ask the question for the 50th time: Especially after 2016, why are machines being used to count and tabulate votes that were designed and built by a foreign entity? Doesn't that very fact signify foreign interference in our election? Forget for the moment all the rest. Just answer that basic question.

And funny how the Capitol building is now sacrosanct, but when federal agents and national guard were used to help clear the area from actively violent BLM rioters and looters, you were "OMG TRUMP DICTATOR BAD!"

Again, you lack consistency. I don't give a fuck about your loose moral judgement. If law is law, then it's a public building. The public DOES indeed have the right to peacefully occupy. I don't think they should, but hey, people are free to be stupid. If police wish to arrest them, that's fine. But if no actual crime was committed in the process, then there's nothing to actually CHARGE them with. Is that relatively clear? Hence why back in 2018, there were a ton of arrest, and all were released without charges. There's no "Lock Them Up". It's just an overnight "Think about what you've done" followed by next day release.


why on earth are you repeating something so basically incorrect?

its not open to the public, at all, during covid times. even pre-covid it wasnt open open, u can tour, there might even be times u can walk right into the rotunda, but its not open. and the senate floor is 100% NOT open to public, whether session is open or not. and when its open session its 1000% not open. then u have desks of people that were ransacked on the senate floor, NOT public space. offices of Pelosi and others, 100% not public space.

now, realistically, u can find some website listing open hours or restrictions that will nitpick at the above, i didnt research it. but lets not act like what happened yesterday was legal, or that these people were in a open public space.

overall stop using legal terms to paint a picture of a world the way you wish it was, its an empty appeal to authority that just makes you sound pseudo intellectual and ignorant. free advice, leave legal terms to people who have read even a pamphlet on them.
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Jan 7 2021 10:06am
Quote (Santara @ Jan 7 2021 09:59am)
FOH rand.



Well, you know me. If a cop is pulling a trigger, they already don't get the benefit of the doubt. Cop can't say "I feared for my life" when he and the rest of them could easily overpower her when she was climbing through.


this is a very shortsighted view of the situation.

people literally calling for civil war, and a senate open session is being infiltrated. the idea that these people couldnt possible be carrying bombs or god knows what under their clothes is silly. this isnt just some drunk asshole in board shorts, flip flops, and no shirt. this is an active session of congress.

her dying is unfortunate, she should have lived to be charged.
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Jan 7 2021 10:07am
Quote (Santara @ 7 Jan 2021 07:59)
Well, you know me. If a cop is pulling a trigger, they already don't get the benefit of the doubt. Cop can't say "I feared for my life" when he and the rest of them could easily overpower her when she was climbing through.


She was unarmed and non-threatening. They could have done any number of things. Thor's simply justifying a police shooting because the victim was white. He's racist. Police brutality is okay unless the victim is black. If black, the victim can be actively shooting at police, and police returning fire means ACAB.

Guy's a joke, and not consistent. At least you're being consistent and honest. For that, I salute you.
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Jan 7 2021 10:12am
Anyone know what the end game of the riot was? Say they got inside with the politicians still inside the building. What were they gonna do exactly?
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Jan 7 2021 10:13am
The clip looks bad, but I cant really blame the capitol police as a whole for these incidents occurring once shit had already hit the fan. The cardinal error was to let he mob storm the Capitol building in the first place. Once you have dozens of small groups roaming a huge, nested building, many of them armed, it was basically impossible to get the situation under control again without starting a proper bloodbath. As tragic as the death of this woman is, from a big picture perspective, having resolved the chaos with just one casualty is a fine outcome and the police sholdnt be blamed for that, given the extremely dire situation they found themselves in.

But again: capitol police deserve a fuckton of blame for having let it come to this dire situation in the first place. Should have stopped the mobsters from getting in, with all necessary force, even deadly force if the mob leaves them no other choice. These insurrectionists wouldnt have had a legit reason to complain if they had gotten mowed down by capitol police like GIs on the beaches of the Normandy. :fume: These fucking morons would have deserved it.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jan 7 2021 10:15am
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Quote (thesnipa @ 7 Jan 2021 08:03)
why on earth are you repeating something so basically incorrect?

its not open to the public, at all, during covid times. even pre-covid it wasnt open open, u can tour, there might even be times u can walk right into the rotunda, but its not open. and the senate floor is 100% NOT open to public, whether session is open or not. and when its open session its 1000% not open. then u have desks of people that were ransacked on the senate floor, NOT public space. offices of Pelosi and others, 100% not public space.

now, realistically, u can find some website listing open hours or restrictions that will nitpick at the above, i didnt research it. but lets not act like what happened yesterday was legal, or that these people were in a open public space.

overall stop using legal terms to paint a picture of a world the way you wish it was, its an empty appeal to authority that just makes you sound pseudo intellectual and ignorant. free advice, leave legal terms to people who have read even a pamphlet on them.


It's a public building. While there may be "rules" and "guidelines" to that public building, there's no law that the public cannot enter the building they own. The argument regarding fencing at most makes it a misdemeanor trespass, assuming fencing and notification of closure was put up well in advance.

Which again, leads to nothing more than an arrest to remove the person from the property, a prompt release, and a potential fine. It's not some "lock them up" scenario unless some other major crime has been committed.
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Quote (duffman316 @ Jan 7 2021 08:12am)
Anyone know what the end game of the riot was? Say they got inside with the politicians still inside the building. What were they gonna do exactly?


larpers gonna larp

at least they didn't chimp out like BLM and smash everything start fires everywhere and spraypaint every surface
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Quote (Santara @ Jan 7 2021 06:59am)
FOH rand.



Well, you know me. If a cop is pulling a trigger, they already don't get the benefit of the doubt. Cop can't say "I feared for my life" when he and the rest of them could easily overpower her when she was climbing through.



You support terrorism?
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Quote (duffman316 @ 7 Jan 2021 17:12)
Anyone know what the end game of the riot was? Say they got inside with the politicians still inside the building. What were they gonna do exactly?


Trump being crowned God Emperor of the Universe, and Soros/Gates/Hillary being publicly crucified on the roof of the Capitol, with their green lizard blood dripping down the Capitol steps.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jan 7 2021 10:16am
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