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Dems win 🇺🇸
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 8 2021 03:29pm)
They overperformed in the House and Senate elections in November, also overperformed in pretty much all state legislative races. And that's under very unfavorable circumstances. The two GA seats were fumbled by Trump and McConnell, nothing the RNC could really have done.


Overperformed based on what?
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Overperformed based on what?


Won something like 24 out of the 25 House races which were considered toss-ups by the pundits, plus all lean- and tilt-R races. Won all the Senate races considered competitive (MT, ME, NC, SC, GA x2, IA), except for two (which were considered almost safe D flips): AZ, CO.

With the benefit of hindsight, unexpectedly losing the two Georgia seats due to the runoff rule (R's received more votes than D's in both races in November!) and an epic failure in the special election does, of course, turn the entire bottom line of this election cycle sour - but the RNC had very little, if anything, to do with this particular shitshow.
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I'm kind of happy the Dems will control the House, Senate and Presidency. Now they won't have anyone to blame for things that don't go well. ^^
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Won something like 24 out of the 25 House races which were considered toss-ups by the pundits, plus all lean- and tilt-R races. Won all the Senate races considered competitive (MT, ME, NC, SC, GA x2, IA), except for two (which were considered almost safe D flips): AZ, CO.

With the benefit of hindsight, unexpectedly losing the two Georgia seats due to the runoff rule (R's received more votes than D's in both races in November!) and an epic failure in the special election does, of course, turn the entire bottom line of this election cycle sour - but the RNC had very little, if anything, to do with this particular shitshow.


If the polling is inherently flawed, I don't know how you can then use it as evidence that Republicans actually did well... even though they lost the Presidency, Senate, and House. That's playing a game of expectations using flawed data.
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Quote (Ghot @ Jan 8 2021 04:09pm)
I'm kind of happy the Dems will control the House, Senate and Presidency. Now they won't have anyone to blame for things that don't go well. ^^


Mitch is a master at obstruction so that's probably not true. Having only 1 member majority in the senate is going to be a big block to progress. It's better than being the minority, but it only takes two Dems breaking ranks to stop anything. And considering Dems aren't nearly as monolithic as Republicans I'd say that's likely to happen on a lot of bills.
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Mitch is a master at obstruction so that's probably not true. Having only 1 member majority in the senate is going to be a big block to progress. It's better than being the minority, but it only takes two Dems breaking ranks to stop anything. And considering Dems aren't nearly as monolithic as Republicans I'd say that's likely to happen on a lot of bills.




Nope. There's no excuses now. If life in the US isn't perfect... we have no one to blame but the Dems. ^^
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Nope. There's no excuses now. If life in the US isn't perfect... we have no one to blame but the Dems. ^^


I forgot you don't even have a middle school understanding of how the government works.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 8 2021 05:37pm)
I forgot you don't even have a middle school understanding of how the government works.




...and there's the insults. LOL. Don't even try to BS your way out of this one. If the Dems can't make life in the US wonderful...it's the Dems fault.
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Quote (IceMage @ 8 Jan 2021 23:14)
If the polling is inherently flawed, I don't know how you can then use it as evidence that Republicans actually did well... even though they lost the Presidency, Senate, and House. That's playing a game of expectations using flawed data.


They ran as the incumbent party during the largest public health and economic crisis in a century, on which their administration had severely dropped the ball. They ran in an election where their standard bearer at the top of the ticket was a uniquely polarizing guy whose approval ratings were badly under water. They ran an awful campaign, devoid of substance and policy, committed many tactical and strategic errors. The BLM protests over the summer energized the opposition's base even further and shifted the conversation to a topic which was very unfavorable for the GOP. The Democrats had a huge money advantage, they outspent Republicans by a margin of 2:1 in many races. The mainstream media and Big Tech were dropping any pretense of neutrality and threw their full weight behind propping up Democrats. America's institutions and elites were rallying behind one candidate (Biden) and in opposition to the other (Trump) to an absolutely unprecedented degree, it was even more one-sided than in 2016.

Despite all of that, Trump came within 0.6% of winning reelection, the GOP made significant inroads in both the House and state legislatures, and seemed to significantly overperform expectations in the Senate (until the GA runoff debacle). They improved their margins with every non-white demographic there is, and saw the largest movement of inner cities toward them in over a decade. Of course nobody talks about places like LA county moving 5 percentage points to the right when they're still D+60 or so, but this kind of movement is actually super important for the future of the GOP (if they can replicate it).
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