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To repeat what I was saying 2 months ago: I never expected Trump to go out gracefully, but I really didnt expect his last few weeks in office to be quite as shame-, disgrace- and pitiful. *smh*
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Jan 6 2021 04:58pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 6 2021 05:56pm)
To repeat what I was saying 2 months ago: I never expected Trump to go out gracefully, but I really didnt expect his last few weeks in office to be quite as shame-, disgrace- and pitiful. *smh*


People were really minimizing his slow coup a month ago. Snipa?
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People were really minimizing his slow coup a month ago. Snipa?


I really thought that he would bitch and moan for months on end after his Nov defeat, but that ultimately not a lot would come from it. Throughout his presidency, Trump had been all bark no bite most of the time, his bombastic rhetoric was almost never followed through by the corresponding action.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 6 2021 02:56pm)
To repeat what I was saying 2 months ago: I never expected Trump to go out gracefully, but I really didnt expect his last few weeks in office to be quite as shame-, disgrace- and pitiful. *smh*


This is what a Trump vote was for. But yea, Kamala is very liberal so it was totally worth it!
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Jan 6 2021 05:30pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 6 2021 02:56pm)
To repeat what I was saying 2 months ago: I never expected Trump to go out gracefully, but I really didnt expect his last few weeks in office to be quite as shame-, disgrace- and pitiful. *smh*


i knew i was wrong about that on election night. when he gave his little speech before going to bed i thought "Fuck I was wrong" lol
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Jan 8 2021 01:27pm
https://twitter.com/DavidMDrucker/status/1347577514382815232

GOP loses the presidency, House, and Senate. GOP Chairwoman re-elected unanimously.

There's not going to be any soul-searching after January 20th.
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Quote (IceMage @ 8 Jan 2021 20:27)
https://twitter.com/DavidMDrucker/status/1347577514382815232

GOP loses the presidency, House, and Senate. GOP Chairwoman re-elected unanimously.

There's not going to be any soul-searching after January 20th.


They overperformed in the House and Senate elections in November, also overperformed in pretty much all state legislative races. And that's under very unfavorable circumstances. The two GA seats were fumbled by Trump and McConnell, nothing the RNC could really have done.

I agree, however, that there wont be any soul-searching by the GOP after Jan 20. The correct conclusion after the Trump years would be that Trump's policies and direction were good, just with a deeply flawed messenger who was his own worst enemy. Instead, the RNC will probably decide that everything Trump was bad, that they were never really on board with him anyway (yeah, right...) and that they should, for 2024, nominate Nikki Haley to run for GWB's 3rd term.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jan 8 2021 02:30pm
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 6 2021 04:56pm)
To repeat what I was saying 2 months ago: I never expected Trump to go out gracefully, but I really didnt expect his last few weeks in office to be quite as shame-, disgrace- and pitiful. *smh*


To repeat what I've said many times, you tend to avoid seeing larger trends when Trump is involved. I didn't expect them to breach the capitol, but I was fully expecting riots as we get closer to inauguration. I would have actually been surprised if we didn't see it. Hell we had white supremacist riots in 2017 with the whole Charlotte NC stuff. It would be weird if they faded gracefully after such an intense victory party.

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Trump's policies and direction were good


Trump never for a single minute represented a policy or direction. He talked constantly out of both sides of his mouth and his base interpreted it in the way they wanted to. Trump's only consistent feature was putting self above everything.

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To repeat what I've said many times, you tend to avoid seeing larger trends when Trump is involved. I didn't expect them to breach the capitol, but I was fully expecting riots as we get closer to inauguration. I would have actually been surprised if we didn't see it. Hell we had white supremacist riots in 2017 with the whole Charlotte NC stuff. It would be weird if they faded gracefully after such an intense victory party.


Like I said in this thread and others: empirical evidence actually suggested that Trump almost never follows through on his bombastic rhetoric, that he usually is all bark no bite. Furthermore, I would argue that it was a very valid and justifiable assumption, by me and others, that Trump's talk about the stolen election was primarly intended to save face with his base, and that he would try to pull a Grover Cleveland and run some sort of "permanent campaign" between now and 2024. Empirical evidence supports this opinion of mine, not yours. Time and time again, Trump has played with fire and maneuvered his own back against the wall - and time and time again, he had the awareness and instincts to pull back and (barely) turn the corner before crossing a line from which there was no coming back.

This time WAS different, this time he really went fully nuclear and burned everything down, including his own political career which objectively was not over. Had he shown just some restraint over the past weeks, the GOP would have held the Senate. And had he then left office without any dignity, bitching and moaning like the sore loser he is, but without inciting violence, he would still EASILY have been the favorite for the GOP nomination in 2024. Even from a purely self-absorbed and narcissistic point of view, what he did since November, and particularly what he did on Wednesday, made no sense.
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