I never assumed she'd die. I said, and I quote, "it could get very dicey very quickly". What part of that statement says "she'll die"?

And you keep saying I have no proof, yet you have no proof of the converse. You're babbling about shit you're misunderstanding.

Ah, so you have no evidence that covid would have any impact on her at all, you're just scared. And because you're scared, you believe a hundred million people should starve so that you feel "safe" about his wife's well-being?

It's becoming so much clearer.



No, you're claiming certainty about shit you clearly know nothing about. As more testing is done, case loads keep going up. Yet death rates aren't increasing with the case load. You want to worry about your wife, have her isolate. Isolate yourself. That has nothing whatsoever to do with other people.

All of life is risk management. Any given day, you could die in a car crash or a shooting or choking on a fucking hot dog. You don't ban cars or guns or hot dogs. You manage your own risk to the best of your ability. Your risk of covid is not notably different based on hundreds of thousands of businesses put out of business in favor of Amazon, Target, and Walmart. Your risk is not notably different based on masks that're typically improperly worn and cleaned. We know the death rates, and the bottom line is, if you're working age, your risk factor is lower than the Flu. This is not something you should be worried about. It's just another cold.

And for the 900th time, I supported and still support incentivizing the elderly to self-quarantine. This can be done without punishing everyone else. Clearly.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Dec 12 2020 01:03pm

Sure... a respiratory disease doesn't affect asthma patients. Makes perfect sense.



So you started with the argument that the only COVID deaths worth counting are the ones where the individual is perfectly healthy with no comorbidities, and now you're contending that COVID doesn't affect sick people/those with comorbidities more harshly than healthy people?

Uhh... what?

Excess deaths are more than the COVID death count. This is simply a fact. You want to deny this.. and I'm still left wondering why.

This post was edited by IceMage on Dec 12 2020 12:58pm

Asthma is not considered a solitary comorbidity. The number of Covid patients who died who's only comorbidity was Asthma is so low it's within the margin of error. Unless his wife happens to have other comorbidities or be in the 60+ age group, covid should be no more of a concern to her than any other respiratory infection.



Interesting how you claim I've said things I haven't. Perhaps if you actually had asthma yourself, and had caught covid, or even knew anyone who's young and healthy who had, you'd think different. And if you think I should live my life differently because his wife has asthma and might get a cold, you can go right off and get fucked, I don't owe you shit, commie.

The CDC "excess deaths" chart isn't working based solely off known deaths. It's weighted and predicted. As in, they're reporting a predicted number based on the assumption that deaths are being underreported currently. Actual certified death numbers in the US are currently slightly lower than previous years. Hence the report that went so viral a couple weeks ago.

There's this massive narrative that you're blindly following and attempting to support, and that's just how horrifyingly bad Covid is to everyone. It's simply not. The elderly have a real cause for concern, and steps should be taken to allow them to self-quarantine without financial hardship. For everyone else, I'm more concerned about the ability for people to provide for their families than your need for absolute safety. Because there is NO absolute safety in this world. If that's what you're after, put down your fairy tales and grow the fuck up.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Dec 12 2020 01:19pm

So you're emotional over having to wear a piece of cloth over your face in public, and are invested in a lunatic president who didn't take it seriously, therefore you're trying to pretend it's not a deadly virus that has killed hundreds of thousands of Americans in less than a year.

I'm not emotional at all, and I think Trump behaved like a complete idiot when he encouraged lockdowns, and empowered the states by providing extended unemployment insurance benefits that for many provided more income for not working than working provided.

The fact is, Trump took Covid more seriously than you ever did. Let's go back to January and February and look at your posts, shall we? You were all over the impeachment, as I recall. Covid was not a thing. You were right on the Pelosi train when she was calling Trump racist for shutting down travel from China by non US nationals.

You've made 50,000 excuses for why Fauci's "no mask" policy was great in February and March, while Trump was trying to work out deals with the My Pillow guy because China had seized all the 3M PPE that was manufactured there (great job globalists!)

You not only lack any form whatsoever of consistency, you lack self-awareness. I've been following Covid since December of last year. I watched with great interest while Taiwan was trying to communicate to the WHO that it transmits like all other coronaviruses and were ignored.

I said from the start of the covid topic both here and in the Donor forum that unless you're 60+ and/or riddled with comorbidity factors, it's just a cold, and less unpleasant than the Flu. I also maintained that the damage widespread drawn out lockdowns would do would lead to a death toll in the tens of millions due to broken supply chains. Current estimates are from 100 million to 270 million.

I've been spot on since the beginning of this "pandemic" and recognize quite easily the power grab in progress. Even the WHO came out last month and said to avoid further lockdowns at all cost. Governments don't care. Ask yourself why that is.

You've made clear that you're a complete nut on this issue and others. I can't engage with someone this deluded. Good luck on Facebook.

Im happy to engage with you but you need to acknowledge how emotional you are being. It's not healthy to not be able to acknowledge it.

600,000 people died from heart disease this year.

Where are your looney rants about corn syrup?

Just wondering, Do you think hospitals being at capacity is a myth?

Do you think nursing shortages, recruitment of retired and non hospital accustomed physicians are myths?

It isn’t about lockdown tbh. First question is do you believe these are issues, if yes - what is your proposed solution? The flaw is being simultaneously anti shutdown and also anti mitigation