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Sep 30 2016 11:20am
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This. I have been to the bowels of the internet and also cranked it to the View, whether Rosie Perez, Elisabeth Hasslebeck, or Joy Behar really just depends on my mood.

On a serious note I think the negative impacts of pornography will really start to emerge in the next few decades. We wonder why young men log on to the internet and say depraved things, perhaps its because they have unlimited access to double anal penetration orgies at the tips of their fingers and the fact that 90% of porn by most studies includes some form of female degradation.


I agree with that. There's some crazy shit out there, and I think some amount of desensitization is occurring.
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Sep 30 2016 11:56am
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It didn’t go so far as to endorse Hillary Clinton — or, for that matter, libertarian Gary Johnson — but what USA Today wrote Thursday night about Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump made it clear who the publication’s editorial board does not, under any circumstance, want in the White House next year.

In its 34 years of existence, USA Today has had a no-endorsement policy. In a historic first that breaks 34 years of tradition, the board decided this election season to revisit its no-endorsement policy — then threw it out and penned a scathing critique of the GOP nominee that read more like an anti-endorsement.

Trump, they wrote, is “unfit for the presidency.”

“From the day he declared his candidacy 15 months ago through this week’s first presidential debate, Trump has demonstrated repeatedly that he lacks the temperament, knowledge, steadiness and honesty that America needs from its presidents,” the board wrote. “Whether through indifference or ignorance, Trump has betrayed fundamental commitments made by all presidents since the end of World War II.”

The editorial calls him “erratic,” “ill-equipped to be commander in chief” and “a serial liar.”


Lol.
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Sep 30 2016 12:07pm
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I agree with that. There's some crazy shit out there, and I think some amount of desensitization is occurring.


Pretty impossible to guage as well until the effects are already set. We wen't from a whole generation of boys trying to sneak into their parent's room to find a playboy or if you were really lucky a Hustler (which had crotch shots) to a generation who don't need to sneak for much of anything. Most kids have multiple internet devices in their room, often times on a phone in hand 24-7. I can't imagine puberty these days, having such god awful material form your sexual expectations is going to be interesting. I think a lot of people expect a good amount of sexism and misogyny to decrease over the next few decades, but we have an entire generation who will be turned on calling women bitches and cunts, slapping and choking them, etc. Now i know people will point to the rich history of BSDM or the presence of this material in porn videos for decades, but again that wasn't in the palm of your hand (pun intended).

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Sep 30 2016 12:11pm
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Lol.


This is actually pretty brave tbh, they're the official milquetoast oatmeal of record and are undoubtedly going to lose some readers over this shit. Maybe I'm missing something.
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Sep 30 2016 12:29pm
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This is actually pretty brave tbh, they're the official milquetoast oatmeal of record and are undoubtedly going to lose some readers over this shit. Maybe I'm missing something.


Brave on one hand, but it's damn near impossible to report honestly on this campaign without being for or against Trump or Clinton in an obvious way. I'm sure it's relieving to not have to edit out punches from every article, i know writing from a biased standpoint is much more fun/easier than constantly questioning your objectivity.
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Sep 30 2016 12:31pm
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Pretty impossible to guage as well until the effects are already set. We wen't from a whole generation of boys trying to sneak into their parent's room to find a playboy or if you were really luck a Hustler (which had crotch shots) to a generation who don't need to sneak for much of anything. Most kids have multiple internet devices in their room, often times on a phone in hand 24-7. I can't imagine puberty these days, having such god awful material form your sexual expectations is going to be interesting. I think a lot of people expect a good amount of sexism and misogyny to decrease over the next few decades, but we have an entire generation who will be turned on calling women bitches and cunts, slapping and choking them, etc. Now i know people will point to the rich history of BSDM or the presence of this material in porn videos for decades, but again that wasn't in the palm of your hand (pun intended).


99.999% of available porn is, at least on the woman's part, acting. Unfortunately, most porn is highly degrading, raw, male-centric and hyper-unrealistic. And even more unfortunate, a whole generation of men who are now in their 20's and 30's became sexually aware and insulated in that world without fully realizing how extraordinary porn really is.

The epidemic of porn exasperates problems that already existed too. Roughly 1/3 of all (global) women's first sexual experiences are not by their own choice. There is something primal about testosterone and its effect.

Porn itself expands the scope of issues that more greatly affected poor regions though. To enable a male to repeatedly view porn through technology, that male has to belong to a social and economic class that can afford relatively expensive technology for years. Now we have a whole generation of middle- and upper-class males with sexual and emotional dysfunction.

I suggestion seeking qualitative information. My fiance's friends all have relationship struggles with their husbands and boyfriends and the role of porn in their relationships and lives. I'd recommend that you ask women that are friends about this issue and if it has affected their lives and/or any relationships they had.

I know that porn personally affected my emotions and sexuality in a negative way. I recently finished almost a year of weekly psychotherapy to help resolve personal issues that, at least indirectly, were worsened with exposure to porn in my adolescence and in emotional grieving periods after breakups.

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Sep 30 2016 12:47pm
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99.999% of available porn is, at least on the woman's part, acting. Unfortunately, most porn is highly degrading, raw, male-centric and hyper-unrealistic. And even more unfortunate, a whole generation of men who are now in their 20's and 30's became sexually aware and insulated in that world without fully realizing how extraordinary porn really is.

The epidemic of porn exasperates problems that already existed too. Roughly 1/3 of all (global) women's first sexual experiences are not by their own choice. There is something primal about testosterone and its effect.

Porn itself expands the scope of issues that more greatly affected poor regions though. To enable a male to repeatedly view porn through technology, that male has to belong to a social and economic class that can afford relatively expensive technology for years. Now we have a whole generation of middle- and upper-class males with sexual and emotional dysfunction.

I suggestion seeking qualitative information. My fiance's friends all have relationship struggles with their husbands and boyfriends and the role of porn in their relationships and lives. I'd recommend that you ask women that are friends about this issue and if it has affected their lives and/or any relationships they had.

I know that porn personally affected my emotions and sexuality in a negative way. I recently finished almost a year of weekly psychotherapy to help resolve personal issues that, at least indirectly, were worsened with exposure to porn in my adolescence and in emotional grieving periods after breakups.


I agree porn can be harmful but we all know it would be impossible to eradicate or ban now. And I also know that both pornography and sexual violence against women (and men) are pretty much as old as humanity. Myself I'm happy my parents taught me the difference between fantasy and reality and how pornography ties into that.
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Sep 30 2016 12:55pm
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I agree porn can be harmful but we all know it would be impossible to eradicate or ban now. And I also know that both pornography and sexual violence against women (and men) are pretty much as old as humanity. Myself I'm happy my parents taught me the difference between fantasy and reality and how pornography ties into that.


I agree with you that the ship has sailed to eradicate or ban pornography.

I feel that this issue also exposes social constructs of our society that are, really, worthless. For example, the mental health system of this country and the stigma of mental health. I especially feel that abstinence-only education and the societal shame, or political correctness, of adolescent sexuality is something that only does harm.
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Sep 30 2016 12:56pm
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I agree porn can be harmful but we all know it would be impossible to eradicate or ban now. And I also know that both pornography and sexual violence against women (and men) are pretty much as old as humanity. Myself I'm happy my parents taught me the difference between fantasy and reality and how pornography ties into that.


I think cultural pressure can help change the meta of porn. Let's tell porn companies we'd rather see 2 people enjoying sex rather than 1 person while the other acts in pain. Every documentary i've seen includes someone saying something like, "i started taking pain pills so i could feel less and be a better actor". which is some startlingly scary stuff.

Overall I think porn is ok, and even some misogynistic porn is ok, if the woman receives pleasure from that. I think as a general rule a woman's pleasure is the best line we can draw in the sand for acceptability of porn.
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Sep 30 2016 01:15pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Sep 30 2016 06:56pm)
I think cultural pressure can help change the meta of porn. Let's tell porn companies we'd rather see 2 people enjoying sex rather than 1 person while the other acts in pain. Every documentary i've seen includes someone saying something like, "i started taking pain pills so i could feel less and be a better actor". which is some startlingly scary stuff.

Overall I think porn is ok, and even some misogynistic porn is ok, if the woman receives pleasure from that. I think as a general rule a woman's pleasure is the best line we can draw in the sand for acceptability of porn.


Ideally it should be pleasurable for both. There are loads of male actors who have huge mental and physical issues as well. I really liked watching Louis Theroux' documentary on porn stars, showed a lot of issues that are ongoing in that scene.

One of the things that always bothers me is how nearly every climax is a facial. Probably because the male lead can't get to climax other than by his own hand. Personally I never came on a girl's face and honestly never felt the need or want to.

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