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Quote (Thor123422 @ Feb 9 2024 02:13pm)
Yes, and we also have the fact that The Proud Boys were standing by with a cache of weapons waiting for Trump to give the word, which coupled with Trump being forced away from the capital by his secret service, the intentional removal of metal detectors, Trump being told they were armed, and then using those 2 hours to call and pressure senators to flip, it all paints a very different picture.

There is no one fact that makes this an insurrection. The totality paints a clear picture of an attempt at insurrection that didn't get off the ground as a result of several small factors, any one of which could have tipped the other direction.






Yeah... the insurrection didn't get off the ground because it was a protest. And all the lefty bullshyt in the world, won't change the reality. :/

Januarygate is just gonna be another entry on my list of Democrat BS.
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Quote (El1te @ Feb 9 2024 11:05am)
It's obviously insane on it's face. The idea that anything that happened was an insurrection is frankly insane. All people have to do is think critically.


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There was one person shot. A woman was shot by an officer.
I watched it LIVE as it happened.

Insurrection my ass. :/


I do question the consistency here, as the grace you each seem to give to people who sought to prevent formalizing the 2020 election results via violence is staggering. If this were done by Leftists, I would condemn each and every one of them as insurrectionists in a heartbeat.

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I do question the consistency here, as the grace you each seem to give to people who sought to prevent formalizing the 2020 election results via violence is staggering. If this were done by Leftists, I would condemn each and every one of them as insurrectionists in a heartbeat.





If it were done by leftists... it probably "would" be an insurrection.



It's not like there isn't "real" proof, that the Dems (left) are trying to break the Constitution, and have absolutely zero respect for anyone's life, liberty or property.







Insurrection... thy name is Democrat!

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If it were done by leftists... it probably "would" be an insurrection.

It's not like there isn't "real" proof, that the Dems (left) are trying to break the Constitution, and have absolutely zero respect for anyone's life, liberty or property.


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Feb 9 2024 01:29pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Feb 9 2024 11:13am)
Yes, and we also have the fact that The Proud Boys were standing by with a cache of weapons waiting for Trump to give the word, which coupled with Trump being forced away from the capital by his secret service, the intentional removal of metal detectors, Trump being told they were armed, and then using those 2 hours to call and pressure senators to flip, it all paints a very different picture.

There is no one fact that makes this an insurrection. The totality paints a clear picture of an attempt at insurrection that didn't get off the ground as a result of several small factors, any one of which could have tipped the other direction.


You're just making alot of assumptions of intent here.

Are there any documents detailing correspondence between Trump and these alleged Proud Boy armed men discussing an attack plan or command?

Is there any evidence at all of Trump giving an attack order?
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Quote (El1te @ Feb 9 2024 01:29pm)
You're just making alot of assumptions of intent here.


I am not making an assumption of intent. I am making an inferrence of intent based on his actions.

He knew there were armed people in the audience, he had the metal detectors removed so those armed people wouldn't get stopped, he gave the order to go to the capital, he tried to go to the capital himself, instead of calling off his supporters he spent 2 hours trying to get senators to flip.

Even if Trump did not know about The Proud Boys sitting there waiting for a signal, there is more than enough evidence to infer he was attempting to subvert a constitutionally required transfer of power away from himself.
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Quote (Ghot @ Feb 9 2024 11:24am)
If it were done by leftists... it probably "would" be an insurrection.





conservative mind virus on full display here


rules for thee but not for me !

what a sick and cowardly way to live
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Quote (El1te @ Feb 9 2024 11:29am)
You're just making alot of assumptions of intent here.

Are there any documents detailing correspondence between Trump and these alleged Proud Boy armed men discussing an attack plan or command?

Is there any evidence at all of Trump giving an attack order?


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