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Quote (NiRo_O @ Jun 1 2021 12:51pm)
War isnt nice to anyone
When was the last time Canada was in a war sir?


We go to war because of our allies. Usually, we offer assistances to countries in needs which is why we're seen as peace keepers. You need to learn your history instead of spreading false biased statements.

Is it bad what's happening over there? Yes.

Can we the people stop it? No

We don't even control our own backyard, what make you think "The people" will do to help you guys over there, nothing. It's not that we hate you, it's that the people stopped defending their turf and did let the Gov take over. Now it's all business. If there's $ to be made, you can be sure Murica will be there.

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Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 1 2021 07:57pm)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_Canada#21st_century

plenty.

Afghanistan: 47,600 civilians killed in 20 years of deadly war
doesnt seem so innocent if you read it like that...
but ofcourse I support their right to react after the 9-11 terror events in the US


this brings up a question tho, is the Israeli war simply about self-defense? if so, why also commit to a campaign of settlements?

Hamas gets 100 rockets pinged off the ID, Israel locates a Hamas stronghold among citizens, Israel notifies the residents the building is about to get destroyed. Ok, that seems moral enough. bit shitty given the ID prevents just about all casualties in Israel, but horses do flick flies with their tails.

but then Israel pushes out Palestinian citizens and PAYS Jews to move in and kick Muslims out?
iirc these properties were bought legaly by jews, the court (which is almost always oppose to the goverment, considered even as a leftist institution) decided that these civils should be evacuated.
imagine you have a house of your own and the people who lives there refuse to pay you rent for years, wouldnt you want them evacuated?


honestly while i dont agree with the military side of the war, i can look the other way on how Israel destroys Palestine in response to rockets/balloons/w.e.

but the settlement process is just fucking immoral. the only justification is "god gave us that land", as if god approves of shuffling Palestinians into homelessness so they can scurry off to live in the rubble u just created.

No one ever said that the Jewish people has the right to live in israel because ''God gave it to us'',
that is just a fact that we've lived in there for over 3000 years, archiology finds, history books and what not.
btw that doesnt mean that the palestines havent been there aswell, they were, and I believe both sides should learn to live with eachother peacefully.


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Quote (NiRo_O @ Jun 1 2021 01:56am)
Every targeted building is backed up with files and satellite footages that proves its not harmless as you claim.


you have shown you are unable to be objective here

Have you seen the footage then that linked the associated press with radical terrorists? I mean based on your rhetoric you must have
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You're showing ignorance on what the canadian army does.

"they didnt pay rent so we had to throw them out" is a gross oversimplification. Israel has been absorbing areas for decades and violently displacing those who live there in an attempt to run muslims out. a few anecdotes about healthcare for Hamas relatives wont change that. and they've also been violently displacing people in the areas of protests. citizens burn mosques, spit on arabs, etc. but u think it comes down to nothing but rental disputes, thats cute i guess.

honestly i have no desire to have any more talks with you, not sure why i bothered to quote u today. u weave inbetween ignorance, idiotic overreaching statements in support of IDF, half truths about stuff u dont want to address, all while throwing on a fake persona of desiring peace.

dont worry, a few more decades of dead babies and you'll have your peace. you'll be able to throw down a platter of hummus without hearing the bottle rockets ping off the ID or seeing people crying on this forum because ur news media wont play it. if it werent for the innumerable pairs of massive veiny breasts that would be lost in the chaos i'd cheer for our country to drop support for you so u could wander the rubble of your streets after you're overrun.

WW2 should have ended with you all getting a slab of Germany, your self entitled existence is the fault of Hitler. The brits running people out of land u lay claim to by archeology is a fucking joke.
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Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 1 2021 10:19pm)
WW2 should have ended with you all getting a slab of Germany, your self entitled existence is the fault of Hitler.


Oh, this shows the truth of why this debate touches you in a soft spot...

Long live Israel :)

Not gonna add a word


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Quote (NiRo_O @ Jun 1 2021 02:50pm)
Oh, this shows the truth of why this debate touches you in a soft spot...

Long live Israel :)

Not gonna add a word


not surprised u somehow read that to mean i dont like jews, or aren't sympathetic to them because of the holocaust. even tho that context isnt even applicable to what i wrote.

jews were victims of unspeakable horror, and were owed a new start and place to live in peaceful isolation. the mistake was making that a place people already lived, and violently displacing them in order to give jews that home.

Germany was at fault, and therefore germany should have been the place where land was displaced to make a new country.

unless you're even stupider than i expect and actually think that Israel was mostly uninhabited before Israel's creation. like it was some arid wasteland just waiting for the return of "god's people". heh
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also give back golan scammer jews
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Quote (theCrossbones @ Jun 1 2021 01:41am)
they only did that to avoid a political black eye. They didn't do it save people


you know what they say about assumptions....


Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 1 2021 02:23am)
Least they could do when youre targeting a building with only civilians because you dont want your war crimes to be reported.

If you dont want to be called an apartheid state maybe stop committing genocide


lefties love to throw those terms around, makes israel sound real bad. but theyre totally not applicable here. if israel is committing genocide against the arab palestinians, theyre doing a really poor job of it, since their population is growing and growing. if you want to look at who would/is commiting genocide, its quite simple. how many arabs live peacefully in israel? millions. how many jews live in gaza/west bank? zero. theyd almost certainly be killed. (aside from protected settlements.) so who is commiting genocide against who...? as for apartheid, if you think israel is an apartheid state then you dont know the meaning of the word. as mentioned, there are millions of arab palestinians living peaceably in israel with the same rights everyone else has. they serve in the military, even as officers, etc. youre telling me thats the same thing as blacks having no rights at all in south africa??? total nonsense.


Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 1 2021 09:04am)
Oh cool where can I read them?


not being able to read them doesnt mean they dont exist. knowing WHAT they know could give away HOW they know it, which could endanger their spies or info source. totally within their rights not to make it public info.


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one thats under almost constant attack from arabs...? :wacko:



Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 1 2021 12:57pm)

but then Israel pushes out Palestinian citizens and PAYS Jews to move in and kick Muslims out?

but the settlement process is just fucking immoral. the only justification is "god gave us that land", as if god approves of shuffling Palestinians into homelessness so they can scurry off to live in the rubble u just created.


thats not how settlements work. they build them on unoccupied land within the west bank. (i dont particularly support that, either, tho...)



Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 1 2021 03:19pm)
The brits running people out of land u lay claim to by archeology is a fucking joke.


its not just archaeology. jews have been living in the area continuously, just not always as many. this is how the brits divided up the land in the first place - jewish majority areas were given to the jews as israel, and the arab majority areas were for the arabs.

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Any middle eastern country could end this right now by taking in the palestinians.
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Quote (ReturnFormer @ Jun 1 2021 07:41pm)
not being able to read them doesnt mean they dont exist. knowing WHAT they know could give away HOW they know it, which could endanger their spies or info source. totally within their rights not to make it public info.


I've got some Iraqi WMD's to sell you, and I'll throw in the Brooklyn bridge to sweeten the pot.
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