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Feb 15 2026 12:42am
I don't expect my chairs to last forever they have an expiry date like milk in the fridge, except it is much longer and harder to tell. I do put a certain amount of trust into everyday mundane things because they have proven themselves to be reliable and consistent over many times. Magic has never been proven not even once since the beginning of time.

I can test my chair for structural integrity before I sit on it, I can't test god before I believe in him.
If I believe in something that isn't there without proof that is called delusion. I dont know about you but I have too much respect for my intelligence to entertain magical explanations as truths.

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Charles Darwin
“But then with me the horrid doubt always arises whether the convictions of man's mind, which has been developed from the mind of the lower animals, are of any value or at all trustworthy. Would any one trust in the convictions of a monkey's mind, if there are any convictions in such a mind?
how can such a mind say God doest exist?

scripture says you have to seek if you wish to find him. you cant just sit on lazy azz and expect to be served while you shake your head
Matthew 7:7
“Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:”
King James Version (KJV)

This post was edited by TiStuff on Feb 15 2026 12:42am
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Feb 15 2026 02:13am
Which publication are you reading from? As far as I know conservation of energy applies to both open and closed systems. For example boiling pot of water (open system) loses energy as steam and heat, but that energy is transferred to the environment. It doesn't dissappear it just moves like a fart in the wind giving the appearance it has vanished. The total amount of energy (system + surroundings) remains constant.



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lol... if your system is the pot of water then obviously conservation of energy does not apply, energy escapes the pot in the form of steam and radiation. Terrible example once again. If you count the energy that escaped the pot then the pot is not your system, the universe is the system you're examining.

Again, conservation of energy only applies in instances in which time symmetry applies. That is, for example, within our solar system. Our solar system is not expanding so the same experiment at a different time will yield the same results. This does not hold true between distant galaxies, because the space between them is expanding, meaning there is no time-symmetry. You could read Noether's theorem if you want the proofs. It should be noted that the theorem only amends conservation of energy to exclude open systems that are not subject to time symmetry. "Wherever a symmetry of nature exists, there is a conservation law attached to it, and vice versa."

We should also continue talking about the origins of the universe. Why do you think the scientific explanation relies on that initial act of pure sorcery?
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Feb 15 2026 02:31am
how old is the universe?
some of this stuff need references. im not going to look for them just now. this is interesting as it is

supposedly we are at or near the center of the universe. (center of the gravity well) ----------------havent been able to find this link

appears gravity is relative?
gravity, the greater the gravity the more time slows down. this has been proven by atomic clocks on a mountain the other in a valley ----------- dont know if i can find this link either

so?

at the center of the universe would be the center of the gravity well time is the slowest.

at the edge of the universe (gravity well) time would move fastest.

so things are old at the edge and younger as one moves to the center?

how old is the universe? its old and young, all at the same ?time? :)

interesting? they calculate the age of the universe by measuring light from distant stars. ? they measure the old stuff?


i think its the redlight shift they say proves the universe is expanding?
before this discovery it was believed the universe was infinite? (steady state)
red light shift changed that belief (mostly) and now the universe has a beginning.
its another example how progression of science ends up in harmony with scripture.

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Feb 15 2026 03:43am
I don't expect my chairs to last forever they have an expiry date like milk in the fridge, except it is much longer and harder to tell. I do put a certain amount of trust into everyday mundane things because they have proven themselves to be reliable and consistent over many times. Magic has never been proven not even once since the beginning of time.

I can test my chair for structural integrity before I sit on it, I can't test god before I believe in him.
If I believe in something that isn't there without proof that is called delusion. I dont know about you but I have too much respect for my intelligence to entertain magical explanations as truths.

https://imgur.com/DoGXUIN.jpeg


Unless you are already aware of structural damage you are not going to test the chair every single time before you sit down. You are just going to sit down. That's a wonderful thing to hear that you can't test God as the LORD himself says you shall not put him to the test.

Too bad you are actually putting God to the test by demanding a sign. Let's put you in the sandals of some Pharisees and Sadducees and see if you can demand a sign from heaven. Otherwise all you will get is the sign of Jonah. Up to you to look that up.

Matthew 16:1-4 ESV

1 And the Pharisees and Sadducees came, and to test him they asked him to show them a sign from heaven. 2 He answered them, “When it is evening, you say, ‘It will be fair weather, for the sky is red.’ 3 And in the morning, ‘It will be stormy today, for the sky is red and threatening.’ You know how to interpret the appearance of the sky, but you cannot interpret the signs of the times. 4 An evil and adulterous generation seeks for a sign, but no sign will be given to it except the sign of Jonah.” So he left them and departed.

Instead you will be receiving a song about Standing In Faith:


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Feb 15 2026 04:45am
lol... if your system is the pot of water then obviously conservation of energy does not apply, energy escapes the pot in the form of steam and radiation. Terrible example once again. If you count the energy that escaped the pot then the pot is not your system, the universe is the system you're examining.

Again, conservation of energy only applies in instances in which time symmetry applies. That is, for example, within our solar system. Our solar system is not expanding so the same experiment at a different time will yield the same results. This does not hold true between distant galaxies, because the space between them is expanding, meaning there is no time-symmetry. You could read Noether's theorem if you want the proofs. It should be noted that the theorem only amends conservation of energy to exclude open systems that are not subject to time symmetry. "Wherever a symmetry of nature exists, there is a conservation law attached to it, and vice versa."

We should also continue talking about the origins of the universe. Why do you think the scientific explanation relies on that initial act of pure sorcery?


How is that a bad example? It was great imo. Assuming the pot and the heat it gives out are seperate from the universe is foolish as they are interconnected. In the expanding universe energy moves away, in a non symetrical time where energy may slow it down or speed it up but it is not destroyed it just changes speed. The energy or matter-energy becomes less dense. In practical physics there are only open systems. Isolated systems are useful in theoretical environments to help us understand certain things better but they arent proven.

Science doesn't claim matter-energy came from pure nothing magic sorcery lmao. At worst some scientists speculate that we came from some kind of low energy state. Most respectable scientists would say they don't really know they will just point out how it looks that way based on the expanding universe. For us to know we have to go back in time and observe it happen. Everything else is speculation.
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Feb 15 2026 05:47am
Which publication are you reading from? As far as I know conservation of energy applies to both open and closed systems. For example boiling pot of water (open system) loses energy as steam and heat, but that energy is transferred to the environment. It doesn't dissappear it just moves like a fart in the wind giving the appearance it has vanished. The total amount of energy (system + surroundings) remains constant.



buoyancy/10


Can I walk up to this buoyancy and shake its hand? Can it provide me a receipt or any proof that it exists? Another made up word to fit this lie that this magic gravity exist.

Magic isn't real addone. You shouldn't believe in this fairy tale.

Where is this gravity?

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Feb 15 2026 07:01am
Can I walk up to this buoyancy and shake its hand? Can it provide me a receipt or any proof that it exists? Another made up word to fit this lie that this magic gravity exist.

Magic isn't real addone. You shouldn't believe in this fairy tale.

Where is this gravity?

https://i.imgur.com/p9vA0BO.jpeg


lol meme says magic power :)
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Feb 15 2026 07:19am
lol meme says magic power :)


It does indeed lol. B)
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Feb 15 2026 01:17pm
Can I walk up to this buoyancy and shake its hand? Can it provide me a receipt or any proof that it exists? Another made up word to fit this lie that this magic gravity exist.

Magic isn't real addone. You shouldn't believe in this fairy tale.

Where is this gravity?

https://i.imgur.com/p9vA0BO.jpeg


Lmao this meme is straight out of flat earth forums.

This F = G × (m₁ × m₂) / r²

Insects don't have much mass and can overcome gravity with their wings pushing against it.
Water is dense but when it loses its mass by becoming steam it too will be able to fly/float up

Yet bible claims that jesus walked on water and turned it into wine. Then he defied gravity without any wings or a jetpack by floating up into the sky. Hmm smells like bullshit.



Is this how jesus did it?


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Feb 15 2026 01:20pm
Lmao this meme is straight out of flat earth forums.

This F = G × (m₁ × m₂) / r²

Insects don't have much mass and can overcome gravity with their wings pushing against it.
Water is dense but when it loses its mass by becoming steam it too will be able to fly/float up

Yet bible claims that jesus walked on water and turned it into wine. Then he defied gravity without any wings or a jetpack by floating up into the sky. Hmm smells like bullshit.

https://imgur.com/ejcJvgP.jpeg


I'm still waiting for some form of physical proof this imaginary gravity exists. You say it's real, prove it. I'm simply giving you the same exact expectations you are giving others. So let's see it addone. Show me gravity in the flesh



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