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Feb 9 2024 01:03pm
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In your opinion would any of the objects cited in the article here constitute being armed?




Pfft... half the women in the world carry stuff more potent than that in their purses. :/


More lefty lies.
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In your opinion would any of the objects cited in the article here constitute being armed?


Yes. Just because it was an unsuccessful insurrection doesn't change that it was insurrection.

Do I think that every person around the Capitol on 1/6 participated in an insurrection? No, there definitely seems to have been many people who were traditionally protesting. However, the people who stormed the Capitol, injured and killed officers, and utilized such objects are the insurrectionists, imo.
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Pfft... half the women in the world carry stuff more potent than that in their purses. :/


More lefty lies.


It's obviously insane on it's face. The idea that anything that happened was an insurrection is frankly insane. All people have to do is think critically.
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Yes. Just because it was an unsuccessful insurrection doesn't change that it was insurrection.

Do I think that every person around the Capitol on 1/6 participated in an insurrection? No, there definitely seems to have been many people who were traditionally protesting. However, the people who stormed the Capitol, injured and killed officers, and utilized such objects are the insurrectionists, imo.


Who killed an officer?
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There was one person shot. A woman was shot by an officer.
I watched it LIVE as it happened.

Insurrection my ass. :/
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On Brian Sicknick, from Wikipedia:

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On April 19, 2021, the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner of the District of Columbia issued a press release about the death of Sicknick. It said that the manner of death was natural and the cause of death was "acute brainstem and cerebellar infarcts due to acute basilar artery thrombosis" (two strokes at the base of the brain stem caused by an artery clot).[34][32] The term "natural" was used to indicate a death caused by a disease alone; and if an injury contributed to the manner of death, it would not be considered natural.[34] It took more than 100 days to release these results from the January autopsy.[28] The full autopsy report was not released to the public.[34]

The chief medical examiner, Dr. Francisco J. Diaz, told The Washington Post that there was no evidence that Sicknick was injured or had an allergic reaction to chemical irritants. Due to privacy laws, he declined to say whether Sicknick had a preexisting medical condition. Diaz noted that Sicknick had engaged the rioters and said "all that transpired played a role in his condition".[2]

According to CNN, some neurologists did not think that the strokes were natural. Stress and traumatic events can lead to a stroke. Based on media accounts, a forensic pathologist thought that Sicknick's manner of death could have been classified better as homicide, accident, or undetermined.[c][35]

The Capitol Police said it accepted the medical examiner's findings "but this does not change the fact Officer Brian Sicknick died in the line of duty, courageously defending Congress and the Capitol".[36][28]
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SCOTUS seems like they want to avoid creating such a test by any means necessary. So where does this go then?


IMO they will avoid answering the question. The current court isn't interested in setting good law. 5 of the justices are not interested in making life difficult for conservatives even if it's blatantly obvious they are wrong. (Roberts, Thomas, Alito, Barrett, Kavanaugh)
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Who killed an officer?


Quote (El1te @ Feb 9 2024 11:08am)
On Brian Sicknick, from Wikipedia:


Yes, thank you for the clarification, as I looked up Brian Sicknick more. It appears that no officers were killed on 1/6, and that was my error.

The assault and injuries to 100+ officers still stands though.
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IMO they will avoid answering the question. The current court isn't interested in setting good law. 5 of the justices are not interested in making life difficult for conservatives even if it's blatantly obvious they are wrong. (Roberts, Thomas, Alito, Barrett, Kavanaugh)





LOL

If the Supreme Court doesn't decide what I think they should decide... then the Supreme Court is at fault, eh? LOL
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Quote (El1te @ Feb 9 2024 01:01pm)
In your opinion would any of the objects cited in the article here constitute being armed?


Yes, and we also have the fact that The Proud Boys were standing by with a cache of weapons waiting for Trump to give the word, which coupled with Trump being forced away from the capital by his secret service, the intentional removal of metal detectors, Trump being told they were armed, and then using those 2 hours to call and pressure senators to flip, it all paints a very different picture.

There is no one fact that makes this an insurrection. The totality paints a clear picture of an attempt at insurrection that didn't get off the ground as a result of several small factors, any one of which could have tipped the other direction.
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