the fight against equal opportunity is mostly lead by people trying to equate equal opportunity with equal outcomes in order to justify inequal opportunity (the false ideology is strong in them). disgusting

Equality of opportunity =/= equality of outcome yet liberals fall over themselves trying to promote the latter as the former. Tell us how they're the same.

i think that it's via strawman that you need to support your false ideology. i don't know what your definitions of "liberal" might mean, but i'd presume that it means something somewhat close to what "evil" might mean.
i'm a socialist though, strictly for strict equal opportunity. and a marxist as well, as i oppose feudalism and slavery in addition to capitalism.


you can neither exist outside of what has existed prior to you and what exists along with you exists as well. the denial of facticity is what baffles me most about all sorts of libertarian-cultists.
this false ideology of yours is the sabotaging of your own interests along with how a peasant might have sabotaged his own interests in favour of his Lord.
of course, the equality of opportunities is wholly, altogether and totally removed from what your foes - the "liberals" - might advocate if you are to believe whatever narratives that the ruling classes might have constructed for you. the reality of course doesn't matter when false ideology is at question.

I don't take that much of a position in American politics, but I'll still be an affirmed Marxist and Socialist in the true spirit of truly equal equality of opportunities rather than a caste system of any sorts (that, which capitalism generally is).

E: hmmh, i really shoudl've taken a new post for this altogether new response. i hope i can abuse more space on this forum later on if I'm to respond to other peoples' posts.

This post was edited by Gastly on Jun 23 2014 10:06pm

Oh, this should be rich, hearing from you of all people what constitutes my "false ideology." Liberals cast about "equality" like it's an unassailable intellectual position, when in reality they're pushing equality of the outcomes in life, as opposed to equality of access and opportunity which are actual societal "goods."

It really is delightful to hear from you fellows all about how liberalism is the new communism.

make me feel all edgy and stuff.

I think it is an unassailable intellectual position when considering the veil of ignorance and original position arguments of Rawls.



It is all fun and games until McCarthyism.

This post was edited by Skinned on Jun 23 2014 10:29pm

actually what i feel is just about the opposite. i really wish that "cultural marxism"/communism and liberalism were actually forms of socialism and communism taking hold of societies.


i still feel bad about having BOTH Rawls and Nozick on my to-read-list. it's just bloating and bloating...