Quote (Handcuffs @ Feb 9 2024 10:42am)

But aren't the various, common disqualifying metrics largely quantifiable and invariable? Age, national origin, citizenship, etc. The idea of "Insurrection" is more subjective, no?

Quote (El1te @ Feb 8 2024 06:55pm)

Staffers at CNN must be having a rough day...

CNN front page:

https://i.imgur.com/XMxB7Sk.png

Quote (El1te @ Feb 9 2024 10:46am)

I think it would be difficult to prove insurrection without a single shred of evidence of any weapons being brought into the Capitol, drawn, brandished, or pointed at any member of the Capitol police, or elected representatives.

Quote (Handcuffs @ Feb 9 2024 12:42pm)

But aren't the various, common disqualifying metrics largely quantifiable and invariable? Age, national origin, citizenship, etc. The idea of "Insurrection" is more subjective, no?

Quote (El1te @ Feb 9 2024 10:46am)

I think it would be difficult to prove insurrection without a single shred of evidence of any weapons being brought into the Capitol, drawn, brandished, or pointed at any member of the Capitol police, or elected representatives.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Feb 9 2024 10:49am)

That there is some ambiguity is the exact reason why we have courts. Creating tests is something that is routine for the supreme court.

It's how you get things like The Lemon Test, where there are factors that are used to decide what would qualify as "establishment of religion" in the first amendment.

Quote (Handcuffs @ Feb 9 2024 10:49am)

Does level of "success" determine whether something is an insurrection, or is it the underlying intent? Besides, weren't there like 100+ officers injured on 1/6?

Quote (gnarjay @ Feb 9 2024 01:52pm)

multiple people were arrest on weapons charges, a few of those were guns and yes it was on Capitol grounds. keep moving that goal post buddy

Quote (Ghot @ Feb 9 2024 10:53am)

Got a reputable link?

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In the wake of the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, a popular narrative has emerged: that because rioters did not fire guns that day, they were not really "armed."

But a review of the federal charges against the alleged rioters shows that they did come armed, and with a variety of weapons: stun guns, pepper spray, baseball bats and flagpoles wielded as clubs. An additional suspect also allegedly planted pipe bombs by the headquarters of the Democratic and Republican parties the night before the riot and remains at large.

Those weapons brought violence and chaos to the Capitol. Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick died one day after two rioters allegedly sprayed him and other officers with what prosecutors describe as an "unknown chemical substance." Four other people in the crowd died in the insurrection, and more than 100 police officers suffered injuries, including cracked ribs, gouged eyes and shattered spinal disks.

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But a review of the federal charges against the alleged rioters shows that they did come armed, and with a variety of weapons: stun guns, pepper spray, baseball bats and flagpoles wielded as clubs.