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Feb 8 2023 09:29pm
Quote (El1te @ Feb 8 2023 06:29pm)
My point is that the same phenomena can be described in multiple ways:
1) it can be described as Mindfulness
2) or it can be described as Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind

It's just two expressions of the same idea, much like 2 different languages

That is not demonic at all


My question for you is this, what is the means of your salvation?

Are you saved and how do you know it?

What is the reason why people go to hell?
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Feb 8 2023 09:34pm
Quote (Modulok2405 @ Feb 8 2023 07:06pm)
What do you mean with "the world"? If you mean how earth formed, than thats proven. Nothing to believe or not to believe here. Just proven fact you can research in seconds.

If you mean how the universe formed than I of course dont know.

No one knows for sure, but the big bang theory is a pretty well thought out theory. I dont know if its true, but right now I would go with that, because its the single best model of an explanation we have.

Thats what you should always do by the way.
Always go for the most likely explanation. This is how science works.
This is how we got those phones or computers we use at this moment and this is how we got everything else we have today. Because we researched things and events and backtracked them to understand them.
Thats how we made use of electricity, solar power, nuclear power, hydraulic power and countless other things.


How can you explain the fact that your heart is pumping out blood?

Did you come from monkeys?
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Feb 8 2023 09:41pm
Quote (gnarjay @ Feb 8 2023 10:13pm)
yes the internet is great but also dangerous, there exists a lot of bad information out there that people use to justify their ways - good or bad. (not talking about you here, you seem decent)

Im not necessarily asking you to pass judgment but rather I am trying to establish some distinctions here.
its always interested me how many people claim to believe but dont practice the tenants of their religion and on the flip side, how few believers are actually practicing without needing to beat their chest about how great of a Christian (or insert another religion here) they are.
it doesn't make sense to me that someone can be a complete piece of shit their entire life but "repent" before they die and are subsequently saved, but a different person can lead a noble, "good" life and go to hell simply because they don't claim to believe in "God".
IMO, it seems the actual "practicing" part of Christianity mostly died a long time ago and now its mostly hypocrites that use their religion as a shield. I say this as someone who was born and raised Catholic.
Donald Trump is an interesting example because clearly (Im passing judgment here) he does not live by ANY of the Christian or Catholic tenants but evangelicals absolutely love him. how could a God-fearing, God-loving person support him when his actions, beliefs and words conflict with everything they claim to believe?
doesnt seem very Christian to me, IMHO


Donald Trump if he has a Christian testimony , I would have to watch it and see what his beliefs are.


Dear Donald Trump,

1. Do you believe that Jesus is the son of God?
2. Do you believe that Jesus came in the form of human flesh two thousand years ago and died on a cross for your sins ?
3. Do you believe you are a sinner that is in need of the blood of Christ for atonement?
4. Do you confess Jesus Christ to be the Lord of your life?



If he answers yes to all four questions and is subsequently baptised into a believing church, then unfortunately we have no choice but to give him the benefit of the doubt




We cannot see the destination of souls.
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Feb 9 2023 12:19am
Quote (redExorcist @ Feb 9 2023 04:34am)
How can you explain the fact that your heart is pumping out blood?

Did you come from monkeys?


Oh come on, man....those are the questions you came up with now? Really?
Before I answer those let me say that your answer to everything is just "god made it". How or why he made anything the way he did or how it is possible for a being to be omnipotent and everexisting would of course not be a question you would ever ask, cause its god, right? He just is. He always was. Nothing to ask there. Pretty simple right? Great explanation for everything. Glad you're happy with that :-)

So now my answers: We do not come from monkeys, no. Thats a neat little thing creationists and other religious people love to bring up, but thats not what biology says.

We humans are biologically Homindae, which is Great Apes. Thats were we belong to still to this day. We arent monkeys we are Great Apes. Thats how it is.
I dont wanna elaborate on the history of our evolution since this is common knowledge you can google anywhere at any time.

Why is my heart pumping blood? Because I need the oxygen in this blood to survive. A heart is an organ most life forms on earth developed because of their need of oxygen. You have to understand how much time goes into those developments. Its not happening suddenly. What do you notnunderstand or believe here?
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