That's not how it works.You shoot multiple cruise missiles in the hope that one of them would hit the target before being intercepted. You can't shoot over east Ukraine without risking fallout from an intercepted rocket. You can't shoot over Nato territory either without provoking retaliatory response. The only way would be through Crimea or Sevastopol. I am sure Ukraine is well prepared for that event from that direction.
You see now a little why Russia cares about NATO slowly encircling and landlocking them.

This post was edited by babun1024 on Jan 26 2023 09:18am

Why would you put a nuke on a cruise missile?
For one, Ukraine has obviously been lying about their cruise missile interception rates, like today when we hear from Ukraine that they shot down every single missile out of a salvo except also people died on the ground and also the power is out but its actually just an emergency power-down to conserve energy.
For two, nobody has any technology to intercept ballistic missiles or hypersonic missiles, let alone those with countermeasures.

If they're going to drop the first wartime nuke since Nagasaki, they aren't going to be spendthrift about the delivery vehicle. Don't imagine it would be stapled to a Shahed drone and lazily flown across the skies for everyone to gawk at en route

A hundredth of Russia's hyper- sonic missilery would destroy NATerrorO within a thousand-mile radius of Moscow in just a few minutes - if Russia wanted.

"all out offensive into russian held territory" is an interesting way to frame a defensive war to regain your own territory.

"yeah this guy stole my bag at the airport, so i employed an all out offensive strategy to take my property back".

to be clear we're talking about the DPR/LPR, which are ethnic russians who held the majority of the ukrainian government prior to the maidan coup, and who formed their own russian aligned separatist governments and were besieged for 8 years, and are now formally absorbed into Russia?
a bit like if Egypt decided to invade Israel and say that actually its a defensive war to regain the airport luggage the jews stole from them back in 48


I think the whole distinction of disputed international recognition as the definition of 'invasion' is best resolved by considering the clear cut cases when the overwhelming majority of a population opposes the folks treading on them and supports the opposition militarily. And that goes for Russians invading west Ukraine or NATO forces invading east Ukraine

Of course you say defensive Russia evil yayayaya ok, what of 240,000 Ethnic russian Ukraine kill of 8 year who want speak Russian go Orthodox church but Azov come shoot in head kids for want that?
Russia come of horror of ethnic russian be banned on own land by evil Zionist Zelensky regime in Kiew.

The EU and UK are doomed, the radiation from North America will sweep over them. Plus if it happens, the EU and UK will get direct hits. Lots of hits. Everyone needs to start digging. You need underground shelters for three years at least. Plus all the food and water and other survival gear. Far less then 1% will be ready. Australia and Africa will be spared in the first go around of radiation. But eventually they will be doused. You will need 6' to 10' of earth over you. Or find a cave. Best wishes to all.

President Yanukovych's sudden decision not to sign a political association and free trade agreement with the European Union (EU)
The guy was Putin's puppet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_of_Dignity

Urban ukrainians clearly wanted their country to join EU

And Ethnic Russians living in Ukraine are more than OK into joining the West too... People think about themselves too.

How many want to live under klepto-fascists ?

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Jan 26 2023 10:24am

Only fascist are evil Zionist Zelensky regime in Kiew

they could have been besieged for about a week if they fucked off to Russia, that place they're so proud to be ethnically of, rather than taking guns from Putin to act as a problem for the new coup govt.

they're basically Palestinians, holding on to land and free guns as their children are mowed down and radicalized, all so Putin could make a takeover a bit more painful for the west. or maybe he even thought they could regain the country so he wouldnt have to invade. either way they're just hamburger to him. "ethnic russian" is one of the stupidest terms i read on a daily basis in this discussion. enthnically so russian they cling to it as an identity, but also so stuck on Ukrainian land that Putin had to spend billions to invade rather than just absorbing them for millions.

OPEC could have ended the Israeli crisis decades ago for pennies, but they'd rather radicalize Palestine to breed like rabbits so there is fresh meat for the grinder. its working in the long run, as the world recognizes the genocidal tactics and turns publicly on settlement, but do the hundreds of thousands of fatherless Muhammads care what BBC writes on page 6?