Quote (sirthom @ Dec 26 2022 12:39pm)

No one has to pay taxes if they don't want to and are clever enough.
I don't and am proud of it.

Quote (cambovenzi @ Dec 26 2022 02:57am)

We think things should be funded voluntarily, we are forced to pay for some things, and 'yet' we still use them.

No hypocrisy found.



Thats an implied argument for why you think taxation is necessary or desirable, not for why it isn't theft

If there is a demand for roads and military services people can and would fund them voluntarily.

There are a number of different ways that have been written about extensively and some are already used.
Toll roads, sponsored roads, voluntary donations or service fees, Businesses paying for roads that lead to their stores, etc.
Roads weren't invented by government and existed independently.

As it stands government roads and the military industrial complex are currently a major catastrophe.
Military spending should be cut drastically and reduced to legitimate purposes.
How we will fund the genocide in yemen and the proxy war/money laundering in Ukraine if we aren't forced to pay for it?

The military has great public support even with the awful things they have done.
If taxation was abolished do you think military services and roads would cease to exist? Or would people find a different way?

Quote (theCrossbones @ Dec 26 2022 01:40pm)

Ah so we going to defend vs RU with friendly donations.. LMAO

Quote (theCrossbones @ Dec 26 2022 01:40pm)

Ah so we going to defend vs RU with friendly donations.. LMAO

Quote (cambovenzi @ Dec 26 2022 10:46am)

Oh right, everyone would just throw up their hands and die. Russia scary.
Being forced to give the government half of your money and letting them inflate away the value of the other half is the only way we can live. Praise god (aka government)

Quote (Leevee @ Dec 27 2022 02:15am)

Imagine saying tax is theft, and mentioning Keynes in the same breath.

Quote (theCrossbones @ Dec 26 2022 01:51pm)

yea the people can't even agree on anything.
Nobody is going to fund the US gov't on donations.. Welcome to Somalia next step.
I'm not even going to attempt this conversation unless you can provide me an example of a functioning 1st world country that is funded by donations.

Quote (cambovenzi @ Dec 26 2022 11:03am)

Without slaves who would pick the cotton? People would just do that voluntarily? gtfo of here.
I'm not even going to consider abolitionism unless you can show me one slave state that didn't have slaves pick the cotton.
-crossbones, circa 1800, probably

Quote (theCrossbones @ Dec 26 2022 02:05pm)

your the one claiming that the entire country can run off donations.
prove it.

Quote (cambovenzi @ Dec 27 2022 08:03am)

Without slaves who would pick the cotton? People would just do that voluntarily? gtfo of here.
I'm not even going to consider abolitionism unless you can show me one slave state that didn't have slaves pick the cotton.
-crossbones, circa 1800, probably