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Dec 15 2022 06:26am
Quote (Pisior @ Dec 15 2022 12:03pm)
yep, some nice idea and point of view.


What nice idea specifically?

Gaddafi was another bonkers dictator that stole billions from his own people, and funded terrorists at any chance he got.

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Dec 15 2022 06:33am
The goal of domination of china vs us is different. Both want to dominate but one is a complete authoritarian oligarchy that would end up being extremely more dangerous if it reach its goal.
Freeworld countries are limited in their actions by the will of their own citizen, the existing law or associations protecting human rights etc... China has none of these limitations.
Simply check what they do to their citizen and minorities.

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“The greatest victory is that which requires no battle.”
“When strong, avoid them. If of high morale, depress them. Seem humble to fill them with conceit. If at ease, exhaust them. If united, separate them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.”
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Dec 15 2022 06:42am
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What nice idea specifically?

Gaddafi was another bonkers dictator that stole billions from his own people, and funded terrorists at any chance he got.


no. many many fake about gaddafi ... gaddafi was a great guy. 1rst who wanted a uniq money for africa( gold dinar),major investissment or a afriacan satellite (RASCOM)

+ look on this book so many good idea, he was a great philosopher.
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no. many many fake about gaddafi ... gaddafi was a great guy. 1rst who wanted a uniq money for africa( gold dinar),major investissment or a afriacan satellite (RASCOM)

+ look on this book so many good idea, he was a great philosopher.


He was a legendary rapist and drugs addict.
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He was a legendary rapist and drugs addict.


yeah you was just nearly when its happened.
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Dec 15 2022 06:51am
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yeah you was just nearly when its happened.


You just met someone legendary who's culture have a thing or two for little kids talking about another " legendary Rapist ".
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Quote (Pisior @ 15 Dec 2022 13:49)
yeah you was just nearly when its happened.


You should go back to school.
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You just met someone legendary who's culture have a thing or two for little kids talking about another " legendary Rapist ".
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If you are talking about my culture, Then i would remind China's national sport:

https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/02/02/seeking-justice-for-china-underage-prostitutes-sex-crimes-law-rights-crackdown/

Terrible story. Vampires and cannibals.
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Quote (Pisior @ Dec 14 2022 08:09pm)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Green_Book_(Muammar_Gaddafi)

a great book.


I have not seen this before, apologies now. It looks interesting, ill add it to the christmas list.

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Dec 14 2022 08:15pm)
Are you serious?


looking at wiki it looks like a manifesto / ideology. I have not read the book but it looks quite interesting. I accept that it looks quite far out there from a western standpoint. presumably it was written based off observations of what is perceived wrong (some of which is wrong) with western political systems but as an alternate it looks to me that it has its own inherent flaws (no plan is perfect).

in the round, I read various books about various people in order to better understand where they are coming from and what will happen next. As an example I read the Kwasi Kwarteng book and it just reinforced a previously held view by me that he was going to borrow a large sum of money, which duly occured. Liz Truss on the other hand was doomed from the get go as she thought she had a mandate when she did not. coupled with an inability to listen or compromise, she was doomed to fail, which again was proven. i.e. if it was not the budget then there would have still been a number of fundamental problems that would have caused her govt to collapse by now.

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He was a legendary rapist and drugs addict.


This is bottom of the barrel. As I understand it, the Chinese cannot fathom why in the western world competent leaders are removed from office due to activities they carry out which is not related to their office. i.e. provided the guy does a good job and is succeeding, don't have a hang up on the other stuff. Now I accept this is not the western way of doing things but a bit of pragmatism is required from time to time. If you have a source re: legendary and serial, provide it, but understand that alot of politicians, in alot of countries, fall under that umbrella.

As an example: Boris Johnston was bold and did not do a good job in England. He was kicked out because he was bold, when he should really have been kicked out for doing a good job.

Provoking users re: X person was legendary rapist / drugs addict, is steering the conversation towards personal attacks / insults and is the type of thing that trolls would do. your better then that, and should be able to win an argument via logic not who can insult better/who has the last word.

Ultimately Africa is a fractured continent and a unifying leader of Africa, to my mind, would have been good for Africa, while accepting that Neither the US or China may have wanted that.

We can point to any country and highlight gross failings in person/govt. That is not what this topic is about. Instead we are discussing the fractured relationship between the US and China and what may happen next.

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