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ahh yes those tourists who just so happened to show up on the day the electoral vote was taking place at the location the electoral vote was being certified. but they totally weren't there to stop that process from happening, no not at all. just a fun coincidence by a group who just wanted to walk the halls of the building their taxes paid for.
the insurrection was ineffectual, only mildly destructive, and was doomed to fail because the certification is simply ceremonial and no SCOTUS, even one with all Trump appointees, would have ruled it's required after the electors submitted their results. but the sister groping mob didn't seem to get that. and when my toddler daughter gets angry and tries to karate chop my leg i still tell her hitting is wrong through my laughter.
The most heavily armed chuds in the country who collectively own more AR-15s than sticks of deodorant showed up unarmed and wandered aimlessly taking selfies. The only comparison to Euromaidan is the hypothetical one, where we ponder the handmaiden's tale alternate history where they machined gunned congress and took over the white house.
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as ive said all along, US = bad, Russia = worse. in almost every metric. election legitimacy, international tomfoolery, prop govts, etc. Even in metrics we're more successful in Russia would happily surpass us if they were able, they're just not very good at it.
the paradigms in Ukraine that led to this point were developing long before the US supplied the euromaiden crowd with the means to hold a revolution. the 2010 election may as well have been a single issue election, align with Europe or stay with Russia. The winner tore up the agreement to side with the EU and sought disingenuously to seek a middle ground and stay friendly with both, when in reality he wanted to maintain their status as a russian satellite state and would have sought to severe future ties with the EU. but he'd also have to travel a day's drive east from his presidential office to find a region where that was popular, and the euromaiden crowd wasn't going to let him kill the movement.
devolving fault into us lightly pressing the scales is idiotic. the movement already existed, would have succeeded in either a revolution or the next election, and the movement is legitimate. russia really is the bag of dirt we call them, even if we're a bag of rocks.
Saying we're better than Russians overall doesn't any moral authority to short sighted internationalism that overthrows the democratic will of a sovereign nation and winds up getting them massacred. And that's one important metric where Russia = bad, US = worse: The body count, ruined cities and broken governments left over from our foreign interventions. In the Arab Spring we learned how actually unchaining a people and letting them pick their popularly supported governments, 'spreading democracy', was actually just going to get a lot of people raped and tortured to death by ISIS. And in Ukraine we tore up a democracy and gave power and weapons to literal Nazis, with similar results.
There's nothing legitimate or democratic about the chaos we unleashed, nor does it even pass the amoral and cynical test of serving our geopolitical interests, and its certainly not in the interests of the fuckaluckistanis this time around.