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Nov 15 2022 12:35am
Quote (YeeHaw @ Nov 14 2022 10:33pm)
Absolutely. Like I said I did the math. Del rio alone had a population increase of I think 44% in three days. It was an absolute disaster and the only thing the executive said about it is they will investigate and punish border patrol for whipping the migrants. Spoil alert it was a fake story that became the focus because they refused to even acknowledge the problem publicly.

The thing is that this is ongoing. The numbers are astounding.


That’s why you need to destroy the incentive
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Nov 15 2022 12:39am
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That’s why you need to destroy the incentive



That is literally a Republican talking point.
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Nov 15 2022 12:41am
Quote (YeeHaw @ Nov 15 2022 02:33am)
Absolutely. Like I said I did the math. Del rio alone had a population increase of I think 44% in three days. It was an absolute disaster and the only thing the executive said about it is they will investigate and punish border patrol for whipping the migrants. Spoil alert it was a fake story that became the focus because they refused to even acknowledge the problem publicly.

The thing is that this is ongoing. The numbers are astounding.


It's insane to me that it has gotten to that point, the biggest military power in the world can't stop people from just walking over its border.

Dems got their photo ops there and dunked on Trump and then never mentioned it again. I remember the whip thing, that was so stupid.
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Nov 15 2022 01:31am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Nov 15 2022 12:41am)
It's insane to me that it has gotten to that point, the biggest military power in the world can't stop people from just walking over its border.

Dems got their photo ops there and dunked on Trump and then never mentioned it again. I remember the whip thing, that was so stupid.



We can do much more than we are doing right now but policy dictates catch and release, and fill detention centers.
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Nov 15 2022 03:10am
Quote (YeeHaw @ Nov 14 2022 07:59am)
So pull it up, post my quotes in their entirety, and/or get the fuck out of my threads.


he did not pull it up so I am scoring this

Yeehaw 1 Cascadian 0

well done.

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Quote (SunnyvaleTrailerPark @ Nov 14 2022 11:48pm)
When did your family migrate to America?


A long time ago.

Hope this helps.
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Nov 15 2022 04:33am
Quote (YeeHaw @ Nov 15 2022 05:10pm)
So does that fact change anything about this story? If you ask me it gives even more reason to supply them with transportation to sanctuary areas that have outwardly expressed their intention to help asylum seekers.

I don’t understand why you guys even bring this up. It made democrat immigration policy implode in on itself and still today, here you guys are trying to make Republican governors the bad guy.


How did it implode? They were helped way faster than they would have been by right wing sociopaths.
It does not change the fact that ron avoided his own responsibilities.
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Quote (Plaguefear @ Nov 15 2022 04:33am)
How did it implode? They were helped way faster than they would have been by right wing sociopaths.
It does not change the fact that ron avoided his own responsibilities.



Bro you wouldn’t know that you are literally on the opposite side of the world and your only information comes from television and internet. I live a few towns away from the actual Texas/Mexico border. Last September when tens of thousands of Haitians came all at once and made camp outside del rio it was us Texans (right wing sociopaths as you put it) bringing them food water and necessities. The government did fuck all and they were left drinking from the rio grande and shitting on the ground.

You are talking to somebody who actually lives here like you know more about it than I do.

This post was edited by YeeHaw on Nov 15 2022 07:12am
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Quote (YeeHaw @ Nov 14 2022 10:39pm)
That is literally a Republican talking point.


I don’t see any R talking about punishment for business that hire illegal immigrants
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Quote (Plaguefear @ Nov 15 2022 12:34am)
Those border states already get extra funding for that reason.
Also the ones flown by de santis were not illegals.


The border communities are swamped, underfunded, and suffering from the deleterious effects of cartel driven violence and crime. Democratic support in south Texas is collapsing for exactly that reason, as the Democratic incumbents themselves keep telling us. The migrants themselves are suffering, as there has been a record number of deaths along the border. The cause is three-fold. Administration rhetoric, in office and during the campaign, led migrants to believe they'd have an easier time crossing. The administration undermined the deal negotiated by the previous administration between the United States and the left-wing government of Mexico, which was successfully defusing the situation. And the administration undermined its own border enforcement, in an effort to appeal to left-wing activists within the Democratic party. The left-wing government of Mexico blames the administration. Border enforcement blames the administration. The migrants themselves tell reporters explicitly that they're coming as a result of administration rhetoric. The response from the administration is that the "border is secure", that there's no crisis, and that the record number of border encounters is somehow the fault of the previous administration. In that environment, the governors of states suffering from administration incompetence are making it an administration problem.

The "asylum seekers" we're talking about are economic migrants. The overwhelming majority of their cases will be denied. Florida is upset because the administration is accepting them into the country, flying them to Florida, and then instructing their own immigration enforcement to "deprioritize" enforcement against them once they refuse to show up to their own proceedings. Texas is upset, because the administration is making it a Texas problem by accepting them into the country, releasing them, and then instructing their own immigration enforcement to deprioritize enforcement. The solution is for the government to secure the border and enforce immigration law. No other civilized society believes that enforcement of immigration law is racist. It is a basic and fundamental prerequisite of a sovereign state.

Quote (theCrossbones @ Nov 15 2022 01:35am)
That’s why you need to destroy the incentive


Which is exactly what the Trump administration did. Migrants aren't seeking "asylum", they're seeking access to the United States because it's economically advantageous to do so. So have them wait in Mexico, far removed from the violence of their home countries, while their asylum cases are adjudicated according to US law. The incentive is access to the United States, "remain in Mexico" removes the incentive.

This post was edited by bogie160 on Nov 15 2022 08:47am
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