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#81
May 13 2022 03:55pm
Quote (Ephesians61213 @ May 13 2022 04:49pm)
Why do you think a rock that is similar to a heart is apparently designed in the same way DNA is apparently designed?


Seems unlikely that a rock would plant itself at that exact location specifically resulting in me recognizing it as a heart shape.

Has to be designed IMO.
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May 13 2022 03:57pm
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dawkins himself was willing to accept a designer (aliens did it) but reject "God" so? a creator isnt really the problem? its who the creator is, is the problem?


If Dawkins recognizes the apparent design in human beings enough to see that we could be the product of aliens, then why not God? And why is he capable of seeing the apparent design of humans and not the aliens in his possible explanation for the existence of human beings? Which would then point back to God? It's almost as though he's full of shit.

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May 13 2022 03:58pm
Quote (Ephesians61213 @ May 13 2022 01:45pm)
So there have been 700 quintillion dice rolls, but there's only one life-permitting and earth-life planet, earth? And you still don't think there's a God? Lul.


google / research "goldilocks zone"
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#84
May 13 2022 04:00pm
Quote (Ephesians61213 @ May 13 2022 02:46pm)
You're still not getting it.

We have evidence for apparently designed structures and processes (buildings, video games, computers, etc.) that we know are in fact designed.

We have no evidence for apparently designed structures and processes that are in fact not designed.

The universe is apparently designed.

Therefore, the universe is probably actually designed in the same way buildings, video games, and computers are.



Circular logic is circular
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May 13 2022 04:01pm
Quote (Sioux @ May 13 2022 06:00pm)
Circular logic is circular


That's not circular logic because my conclusion is based on,

1. We have evidence for apparently designed structures and processes (buildings, video games, computers, etc.) that we know are in fact designed.
2. We have no evidence for apparently designed structures and processes that are in fact not designed.

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#86
May 13 2022 04:04pm
Quote (Ephesians61213 @ May 13 2022 01:47pm)
Who the fook is sunny? Can you at least link me to his profile? Lol.


they think every new is sunny. they used to call me sunny



Quote (Sioux @ May 13 2022 02:10pm)
You're saying god created nature so therefore nature is evidence that God created nature.

You understand that right?


lol only a kook atheist/antitheist would offer up such gibberish.

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May 13 2022 04:07pm
Quote (Ephesians61213 @ May 13 2022 05:01pm)
That's not circular logic because my conclusion is based on,

1. We have evidence for apparently designed structures and processes (buildings, video games, computers, etc.) that we know are in fact designed.
2. We have no evidence for apparently designed structures and processes that are in fact not designed.


I disagree with #2. The rock in my yard looks designed but wasn't.

We can also set up total random scenarios and get things that look intentional out of them, purely by random chance. If I flip a coin enough times I'll get heads 10 times in a row. Doesn't mean I intended to do that or somehow designed the coin to get heads.

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May 13 2022 04:09pm
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I disagree with #2. The rock in my yard looks designed but wasn't.


Oh, you think the rock in your yard that's shaped kinda like a heart is apparently designed in the same way a computer or DNA is? How so?
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May 13 2022 04:13pm
Quote (Ephesians61213 @ May 13 2022 05:09pm)
Oh, you think the rock in your yard that's shaped kinda like a heart is apparently designed in the same way a computer or DNA is? How so?


Seems pretty unlikely that a rock would choose heart among all the random shapes available.

That's apparent design IMO
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May 13 2022 04:14pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ May 13 2022 06:13pm)
Seems pretty unlikely that a rock would choose heart among all the random shapes available.


So, how did the rock 'choose' (I wasn't aware of rocks having free will) to make itself into a heart-shape and how is this comparable to computers and DNA?
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