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Mar 30 2022 02:33pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Mar 30 2022 03:31pm)
It's been pretty clear that I'm not denying biology plays a role in socialization and behavior. It's pretty dumb of you to think I'm denying that since you know my backgorund.


I said Biology has a larger affect, and that socialization has an effect. i asked you if you think the inverse is true, meaning biology has an effect, but less of one than socialization.

so perhaps read gooder at my wurds?
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I said Biology has a larger affect, and that socialization has an effect. i asked you if you think the inverse is true, meaning biology has an effect, but less of one than socialization.

so perhaps read gooder at my wurds?


If gender is a social construct has nothing to do with the relative impact of biology or socialization on behavior. It is a social construct by its very nature as a category.

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Mar 30 2022 02:35pm
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This is a contradiction. You literally just said it's not a dichotomy.


are you going to take the logical fallacy I just described to you and go running with it?

next you'll say...
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Mar 30 2022 02:37pm
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are you going to take the logical fallacy I just described to you and go running with it?

next you'll say...


You didn't describe a fallacy. You did, however, use many fallacies in your argument. I just decided to point out the first one because it was so glaring.
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its not grooming though
Florida teacher upset he can't share gay experiences with kindergartners

hes upset...............
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Quote (HeLiCaL @ Mar 30 2022 06:32pm)
that guy is terminally brain rotten, dont bother


awww :( well i dont really know anyone here, im just lurking here because poe forum is dead and this one is active and seems to have some very smart people :blush: ! but yes it does seem that peoples opinions dont really change once they have it formed :wacko:

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Mar 30 2022 06:32pm)
Sounds like a pretty shitty country. I prefer living in a country where people have the freedom to do as they please as long as it doesn't hurt anybody.

It's pretty telling that certain people pretend there is harm to children. They can't point to any real damage so they have to just pretend literally everybody they disagree with is a secret pedophile.

What does "scientific" mean here? Science doesn't say if it's good or bad to like your own race over others. In fact, scientific evidence suggests that when you grow up in a diverse environment you don't tend to like your own race over others, and that race preference is a learned behavior.


but it is as they please :blush: ! biology teacher says what he thinks, religion teacher says what he thinks, why not!

as for harm to children, yes there is definitely harm to children :wacko: for example did you know that mothers have an instinctive behavior that they only use simple words when talking to a baby, and then gradually start using more complicated ones as the kid learns :blush: ? reason is simple, dont bother a kid with what it cant understand or even care about. as for "learned behavior", if you brainwash someone hard enough, you pretty much implant a learned behavior :wacko:

also on preferring all races same, well now i cant agree with that at all :( i mean yes i got evidence, but im sure you do as well because even science seems to be really polarized these days so its not hard to find studies that confirm whatever :wacko: personally i think that if you grow in a diverse environment, you are pretty much forced to say that you like everyone equally because theres always someone watching what you said, and its not worth it to say what you really think

for example! i live in serbia. we dont really have black people at all, but we do have gypsies. a LOT of gypsies. and lemme tell you a secret. eveeeeryone here hates gypsies. at the same time, no one hates blacks, because serbs as a race dont have any positive or negative experience with them. but when you talk to people formally, they dont mind if you use a slur for a black person but they DO mind if you use a slur for a gypsy (saying "ciganin" instead of "rom") :wacko: see, its not about disliking someone, its about not wanting to rough any feathers, and its not like the serbian black community will mind, all 3 of them :mellow:

my opinion is that the closer someone is genetically to you, the more you care about him, if you control for other factors. so you > everyone else, your family > other families, your group > other groups, your race > other races, your species > other species etc.
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Mar 30 2022 02:44pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Mar 30 2022 03:37pm)
You didn't describe a fallacy. You did, however, use many fallacies in your argument. I just decided to point out the first one because it was so glaring.


I already described the fallacy you're trying to employ. I manifested a stance hovering behind me (a large muscular arab man, naked save for a turban, accompanied by muhammad hassan's entrance theme) and declared what your next line would be, before you said it.
I'm generally disdainful of bullshit word games that dodge around the underlying facts and logic, but when it comes to tropes so overplayed that even twitter and reddit comments get meta rather than engaging them, I'm just bored witless and have to make up my own amusement
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Mar 30 2022 02:46pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Mar 30 2022 03:44pm)
I already described the fallacy you're trying to employ. I manifested a stance hovering behind me (a large muscular arab man, naked save for a turban, accompanied by muhammad hassan's entrance theme) and declared what your next line would be, before you said it.
I'm generally disdainful of bullshit word games that dodge around the underlying facts and logic, but when it comes to tropes so overplayed that even twitter and reddit comments get meta rather than engaging them, I'm just bored witless and have to make up my own amusement


Translated: You aren't really wanting to talk, you just want to score points against what you preceive as being woke.

If you would listen I think you'd find we disagree on a lot less than you think. This is just very basic epistemology that I'm describing. Not something that's really controversial.
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Mar 30 2022 02:49pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Mar 30 2022 04:09pm)
Nature does not categorize things


what? this doesnt make sense. nature makes biological men and bio females...

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Quote (C4NTWO @ Mar 30 2022 03:49pm)
what? this doesnt make sense. nature makes biological men and bio females...


Nature does not have a mind. If you ask nature "what's a man?" you will just get silence. Nature makes things that have penises and things that have vaginas, but it isnt' setting out to create things that fit into categories. It merely is.

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