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Mar 27 2022 07:18am
this is akin to some random aide saying “Reagan didn’t actually mean to ask Gorbachov to tear down the wall” immediately after his actually legitimate speech in West Berlin in 1987

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Shortly after the speech, a Biden aide told pool reporters that “... He was not discussing Putin’s power in Russia, or regime change.”


https://news.yahoo.com/white-house-walks-back-bidens-224602827.html
https://nypost.com/2022/03/26/president-bidens-putin-speech-in-poland-is-a-catastrophe/

the only similarity between the two is they both held the same office. Reagan wanted conflict to end (despite the media saying he wanted WWIII) and biden wants WWIII (with the media supporting this)

this aide seems to be in control of the WH, fortunately for us because the aide had a much more measured and coherent point against Putin’s actions

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Quote (excellence @ Mar 27 2022 09:18am)
this is akin to some random aide saying “Reagan didn’t actually mean to ask Gorbachov to tear down the wall” immediately after his actually legitimate speech in West Berlin in 1987



https://news.yahoo.com/white-house-walks-back-bidens-224602827.html
https://nypost.com/2022/03/26/president-bidens-putin-speech-in-poland-is-a-catastrophe/

the only similarity between the two is they both held the same office. Reagan wanted conflict to end (despite the media saying he wanted WWIII) and biden wants WWIII (with the media supporting this)


Putin is a criminal at this point, Russia can't have legitimacy with him in charge after this.

Putin just isn't allowed back at the table after this. No leader will sit with him knowing he will kill their citizens and try to assassinate him or her.

Biden just said what everyone is thinking.

Excellence, are you going to go hang with your neighbor that is breaking into everyone's housing and killing their kids?

No, you can the police and arm yourself.

Russia is so fucked. Putin wanted the USSR back, here are the breadlines motherfuckers.

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Mar 27 2022 07:24am
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When did American men become so fearful?

I hope not because with men like OP we can't win any God damn wars. Guy sounds like he would piss himself during the British Invasion (The Beetles).

Biden's balls would need to drop first. Also Congress declares war and we have a Putin wing of the GOP.

Our most famous politician is a russian asset, Mr. Trump.

Soooooo unlikely.

Zelensky is right, west lacks courage.



This is the type of logic that led to Korean, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan and many other wars where we bomb plebs into the ground.

War mongers always present some existential threat why we need to do it. Don’t really think i would call it courage.
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Mar 27 2022 07:27am
Quote (Skinned @ Mar 27 2022 04:20pm)
Putin is a criminal at this point, Russia can't have legitimacy with him in charge after this.

Putin just isn't allowed back at the table after this. No leader will sit with him knowing he will kill their citizens and try to assassinate him or her.

Biden just said what everyone is thinking.

Excellence, are you going to go hang with your neighbor that is breaking into everyone's housing and killing their kids?

No, you can the police and arm yourself.

Russia is so fucked. Putin wanted the USSR back, here are the breadlines motherfuckers.


Then why did the white house backtrack the statement?
They finally realized it isn't their job to bestow legitimacy certificates?
You know what really lost legitimacy in the last two decades : USA as a moral arbiter and world police/authority :)
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Mar 27 2022 07:28am
Team America World Police, time for regime change in Russia woo woo. Yeah let's go deliver Russians some aid packages of freedom and democracy so they can experience truth justice and the american way like libya, syria, yemen, afghanistan, iraq, etc etc

Biden said something fucking stupid. Even the Biden administration isn't so far gone as the radicals in his own party cheering to drive off a cliff. I think its the meagerest credit to Biden that he's still sane enough to immediately walk back something that stupid and inflammatory. Its a mark against him he said it in the first place, but he hasn't embraced World War III and the nuclear holocaust. For all the histrionics and doomsaying and hyperpartisanship, I'd hope Americans can recognize that Joe Biden is not a total moron and not the guy who's going to get us all killed. I'm happy to criticize him for his shortcomings at peacetime, but he's not a maniac. The catalyst for the current war in Ukraine was Joe Biden making the rational decision to deescalate with Russia and declare that we wouldn't intervene if Russia invaded, and we stuck to that.
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Mar 27 2022 07:28am
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This is the type of logic that led to Korean, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan and many other wars where we bomb plebs into the ground.

War mongers always present some existential threat why we need to do it. Don’t really think i would call it courage.


Putin is the warmonger and you are supportive of him.

That is the truth in this situation.

Now rationalize his aggression against his neighbors predictably.


Quote (Lebanon961 @ Mar 27 2022 09:27am)
Then why did the white house backtrack the statement?
They finally realized it isn't their job to bestow legitimacy certificates?
You know what really lost legitimacy in the last two decades : USA as a moral arbiter and world police/authority :)


Our GDP disgrees.

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Putin is the warmonger and you are supportive of him.



I support actions that will lead to a quicker peace. I’d rather not escalate and push an on edge military superpower armed with thousands of nukes.
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Quote (Skinned @ Mar 27 2022 04:28pm)
Our GDP disgrees.


Does GDP determine the legitimacy and moral authority?
Sounds a lot like might makes right to me :)
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Mar 27 2022 02:34pm)
I support actions that will lead to a quicker peace. I’d rather not escalate and push an on edge military superpower armed with thousands of nukes.


According to main stream lie media Russia is no superpower 🤣🤣🤣 And these idiots even believe it lmao.
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Mar 27 2022 04:34pm)
I support actions that will lead to a quicker peace. I’d rather not escalate and push an on edge military superpower armed with thousands of nukes.


You heard Biden. He is preparing leaders and people alike for a long battle that will take years. Sacrifices must be made for "democracy and freedom" (read: American global hegemony).
There won't be quick resolutions.
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