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Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 11 2021 09:09am)

its simple, most of hte time large scale strikes happen one of 2 things occurs:

1. company buckles, people return to work, strike breaking temp workers are sent home, workers happy.

2. workers buckle, take a deal lower than they wanted, strike breaking temp workers are sent home, company happy.

here we have:

3. workers nor company buckle, no deal, strike breaking workers are hired, striking workers are out of a job and lose all of their accumulated benefits and lost pay.


you sure do have a terrible grasp on the history of worker union strikes for someone who spent a few hours typing shitty takes in this thread.

Quote (addone @ Dec 10 2021 03:29pm)

Yea but you are not hearing my larger point. You support a shitty company is equivalent to a wife or husband stuck in an abusive relationship.
Desision to work for Kellogg's is a vote yes I support abusive company that has a history of mistreatment of its workers.
Buying its products is saying yes to continual of this treatment
The people are just happy enough to stay but not dissatisfied to leave. So strikes are their way of I am not cooking dinner or talking to you unless you start treating me different.

Or is that take not accurate?

I am saying drop that good for nothing company and you are justifying "no but he still loves me, he will come around."

Shakes head*

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Statement by President Joe Biden On Kellogg Collective Bargaining Negotiations

Collective bargaining is an essential tool to protect the rights of workers that should be free from threats and intimidation from employers.

That’s why I am deeply troubled by reports of Kellogg’s plans to permanently replace striking workers from the Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers International during their ongoing collective bargaining negotiations.

Permanently replacing striking workers is an existential attack on the union and its members’ jobs and livelihoods. I have long opposed permanent striker replacements and I strongly support legislation that would ban that practice.

And such action undermines the critical role collective bargaining plays in providing workers a voice and the opportunity to improve their lives while contributing fully to their employer’s success.

Unions built the middle class of this country. My unyielding support for unions includes support for collective bargaining, and I will aggressively defend both.

I urge employers and unions to commit fully to the challenging task of working out their differences at the bargaining table in a manner that fairly advances both parties’ interests.

Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 11 2021 09:34am)

no i hear ur shitty point, u just cant read.

many of the workers on strike worked for kellogs for 10-15+ years, and come from families that had parents who worked for them for 30-50 years and retired comfortably.

now here's the part that wont get into your brain, the changes are NEW.

imagine ur dad works for a company for 50 years, and retires comfortably. u take the same job. work there 20 years, then as you're approaching retirement they make a bunch of changes to fuck you. so you do what? leave and work somewhere else and fuck yourself and lose all ur retirement? no, u got on strike, expect it to last a few week, it lasts 2 months, and u get fired/replaced, and get fucked anyways. then a dumb dumb calls u bad on PARD.

just learn to read better next time. just try harder. stop trying to preach and learn to learn. intake information instead of being dumb lol.

Quote (addone @ Dec 10 2021 03:54pm)

Shitty take lol. That's a typical sunk cost fallacy on display. Invested 15 years of my life instead of changing jobs or I could leave and get better pay or just stay in this progressively worse position.

I can imagine my parents and grand parents working all their life in same job
with livable income because they have. I am just not retarded to assume that it applies to this century anymore.
Like I said this thread just demonstrates old stuck in the past mentality. You have offered nothing but bitching and crying.

All I can say if you carry on thinking and not willing to adapt you might be in for a rude awakening yourself.

Quote (IceMage @ Dec 10 2021 06:39pm)

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/12/10/statement-by-president-joe-biden-on-kellogg-collective-bargaining-negotiations/

The Trumpists here in 2020 wanted a president who would defend the interests of workers, and they got it. :thumbsup: